Gunfighter

I get that the entire system is complex. I also know that a small individual component like a trip that is flagged in iCrew with RR can be handled by a few lines of code without touching the other 6 million lines. Failure to address systemic pay shortages is theft of wages.

*My opinion comes from leading a portion of the Y2K implementation team through an ERP upgrade at multibillion dollar international manufacturing company. I feel qualified to address the relative simplicity of a minor coding change from a non-pilot perspective.

GogglesPisano

Another solution: Simplify Reroute language in section 23.

OOfff

yeah I’m not saying it cannot be done, but it is far more than just tapping in a few lines of code, especially with legacy systems that have innumerable…customizations…since implementation

OOfff

that’s a direct quote from the ATL base meeting. Take it up with the people in the meeting if you don’t believe it

it wasn’t quite the phrasing I was looking for, so I apologize. But what I was getting at is that DBMS a platform that is actively being used at all times, as opposed to one that can be taken offline for significant updates. As a business without “business hours,” we operate differently than others that might have the luxury of overnight or weekend downtime.

running an airline of our size is just about the biggest logistical problem in business. At the very least, before you give other examples, it ranks highly.


They could definitely fix it, it just isn’t “a couple lines of code” simple. Nothing ever is. But pilots constantly pretend like everyone else’s jobs are simple and solutions are obvious without understanding them…but our job cannot be comprehended by others

Nantonaku

Funny you would post this and then tell other people they don’t understand the issue. I’ve worked in the computer/web world since before the bubble. I can’t think of a single business they would accept any downtime. A web store or an app with a backend in the cloud can just take off the weekend? Crypto backends can just be down for a night? How would that work? So airlines are the only ones that run mission critical items on computers? The list of businesses that require 24 hour uptime is way longer than any business that can just take the weekend off. This isn’t some short list that only includes airlines. You are out of your league in this discussion.

The bottom line is the company could follow the rules of the road and do the right thing but why would they? They would have to spend the money (and it probably wouldn’t be that much) and the end result would be it costs them even more money. Why would they do that?

OOfff

yeah I don’t doubt that I’m completely out of my depth. I haven’t done any coding since college a million years ago. So on that, you’re absolutely correct.

my point wasn’t that it cannot be fixed, but that it’s never as simple as pilots assume. After seeing how long it took to get an email address change done for a certain department, I know that things here are not simple, whether technical or political.

your last paragraph is undoubtedly true.

BlueSkies

Sad but true.

higney85

DELTA

Do Everything Like The Amish
Don’t Ever Let Tech Advance
Dos Exists Lonely To All

myrkridia

Is there a crash course guide somewhere to learn how to cross-check pay with schedule worked?

Hossharris

Couple of fun rumor mill
nuggets:

-ALPA is filing a wage theft grievance for this very reason.

-new contract will have all reroutes pay premium. Evidently it’s cheaper than all the manpower/thrash of figuring out (incorrectly) which reroutes should pay and which shouldn’t.

discuss.