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Gone Flying 10-27-2022 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by Falcon20 (Post 3521575)
So I’m sure I’m wrong as this is math in public but if the top captain pay rates are accurate we would need a 30% pay raise to match the Endeavor rate. Now I just took the captain top rate of $237.25 divided by our current CRJ900 rate of $124.66 to get that.

I now believe that a new floor has been established. Who knows but food for thought.
their top CA rate DOS is 216 and our top CRJ CA rate is 182. 124 is the FO rate.

I get a 19% raise for our top CRJ rate to match theirs.

marcal 10-27-2022 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by Trip7 (Post 3521632)
At this level it's not about the pay it's about the benefits and QOL.
Trip I generally like what you've got to say but this is a bad take. Whats the point in QOL if you can't afford to do anything on your time off? Pay is a huge part of the equation. If QOL is the top and pay an afterthought, than you could just quit and have all the time and QOL you want. Overall comp is incredibly important - as is balancing it with appropriate means of controlling our lives. That is the true definition of QOL. Control over our time, however we choose to spend it.

SwitchThrower 10-27-2022 05:46 PM
I agree. I could fly an airplane anywhere. I came here for the money.

too low gear 10-27-2022 06:23 PM
Originally Posted by Boatbuilder (Post 3521528)
If the numbers are accurate then the question is who talked?
The same person who leaked the Roe v Wade decision.

MeteorA113 10-27-2022 06:53 PM
Everyone is saying it should be pay or QOL improvements. Lets shoot for both. We deserve and earned both.

Falcon20 10-27-2022 07:04 PM
Originally Posted by Gone Flying (Post 3521732)
their top CA rate DOS is 216 and our top CRJ CA rate is 182. 124 is the FO rate.

I get a 19% raise for our top CRJ rate to match theirs.

I did say it was math in public also typing in public. I did divide by 182 to get the 30% but typed incorrectly. I didn’t have the DOS to out year scales either so I’ll believe the 19%.

Suffice to say that 20% DOS minimum is not unreasonable when combined with our QOL improvements.

Nantonaku 10-27-2022 07:06 PM
Originally Posted by too low gear (Post 3521757)
The same person who leaked the Roe v Wade decision.
Awesome. So will get a full investigation and find out who did it never?

Planetrain 10-27-2022 07:08 PM
Jumpseater to ERJ crew: “So, you got your stuff in at Delta?”
Pilots: ”I can’t leave endeavor because of the pay cut.”

Funny how this rings differently now.

Gone Flying 10-27-2022 10:42 PM
Originally Posted by Falcon20 (Post 3521780)
I did say it was math in public also typing in public. I did divide by 182 to get the 30% but typed incorrectly. I didn’t have the DOS to out year scales either so I’ll believe the 19%.

Suffice to say that 20% DOS minimum is not unreasonable when combined with our QOL improvements.
completely agree 20% DOS should be our absolute minimum. in addition to the reason you mentioned, that just barley keeps our head above water wrt inflation.

PotatoChip 10-28-2022 12:21 AM
I left an LCC to come here to GET PAID.
Paid a substantial amount of money.
And have more control of my life.

I don’t know what Trip is on about. I had 17 days off a month and cush layovers at brand X. I’m here for cash.


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