Post-Positive Space Issues?
11-05-2022 | 01:48 PM
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Having non-reved under both AA’s system and ours, I have to say that AA wins over Delta. The issue of an entire family of 6 with a 1979 seniority date listing and checking in at the last possible minute, thereby bumping an entire list of non-revs that planned ahead, is very real at Delta. AA’s system allows for much greater predictability and planning when non-reving. Their automatic combined jumpseat/non-rev listing also beats our strict “one or the other” policy.
Which is why restricting last minute check ins, say, inside 6 hours, would go below everyone else. In general, it's absurd that if you check in 23 hours prior, a person who has been here 30 years goes below a new hire at Endeavor who checked in 24 hours prior.
And I also disagree with penalizing locals to solely benefit commuters.
11-05-2022 | 02:50 PM
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Which is why restricting last minute check ins, say, inside 6 hours, would go below everyone else. In general, it's absurd that if you check in 23 hours prior, a person who has been here 30 years goes below a new hire at Endeavor who checked in 24 hours prior.
And I also disagree with penalizing locals to solely benefit commuters.
Which is why restricting last minute check ins, say, inside 6 hours, would go below everyone else. In general, it's absurd that if you check in 23 hours prior, a person who has been here 30 years goes below a new hire at Endeavor who checked in 24 hours prior.
And I also disagree with penalizing locals to solely benefit commuters.
The ability to have a solid idea of how many non-revs will be ahead of you 24 hours before a flight outweighs any benefit of seniority fairness in my opinion. No matter how senior you are, there is always someone more senior here who can swipe seats at the last minute.
I agree that a hybrid system could work best here.
11-05-2022 | 03:20 PM
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agree wholeheartedly.
AA non rev priority system is the best of the big 3.
There is a huge logistical advantage that is had by knowing where you stand 24 hours out.
also, unpopular opinion, but I think seniority should determine quite a bit, but in general I don’t think it should affect non rev travel.
AA non rev priority system is the best of the big 3.
There is a huge logistical advantage that is had by knowing where you stand 24 hours out.
also, unpopular opinion, but I think seniority should determine quite a bit, but in general I don’t think it should affect non rev travel.
11-05-2022 | 04:57 PM
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Also under the AA system connecting passengers at the same overall priority level go ahead of people who are originating. So if a person is going TPA-ATL-SFO, that person would have priority over a person just flying ATL-SFO on that leg, even if both use S2s. So S2 connecting goes ahead of S2 originating goes ahead of S3 connecting goes ahead of S3 originating, etc.
11-05-2022 | 05:49 PM
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11-05-2022 | 06:00 PM
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Also under the AA system connecting passengers at the same overall priority level go ahead of people who are originating. So if a person is going TPA-ATL-SFO, that person would have priority over a person just flying ATL-SFO on that leg, even if both use S2s. So S2 connecting goes ahead of S2 originating goes ahead of S3 connecting goes ahead of S3 originating, etc.
11-05-2022 | 06:01 PM
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agree wholeheartedly.
AA non rev priority system is the best of the big 3.
There is a huge logistical advantage that is had by knowing where you stand 24 hours out.
also, unpopular opinion, but I think seniority should determine quite a bit, but in general I don’t think it should affect non rev travel.
AA non rev priority system is the best of the big 3.
There is a huge logistical advantage that is had by knowing where you stand 24 hours out.
also, unpopular opinion, but I think seniority should determine quite a bit, but in general I don’t think it should affect non rev travel.
Talk about making commuting untenable.
11-05-2022 | 06:09 PM
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Also, is it fair to the non-rev pilot on that next flight that you would bump them off their commute? No, it isn’t. There are certain things that simply aren’t controllable. As someone who has been commuting for the better part of a decade I will say this. You learn to roll with whatever and you don’t get stressed out. Also just to reiterate… AA’s non-rev system is 10,000x better than this convoluted mess here at Delta.
11-05-2022 | 06:54 PM
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Sometimes a gate agent can move your prior listing over to the new flight and you’ll go on top of the other non-revs. Sometimes they don’t. As with anything in life it is dependent on the people to make the difference.
Also, is it fair to the non-rev pilot on that next flight that you would bump them off their commute? No, it isn’t. There are certain things that simply aren’t controllable. As someone who has been commuting for the better part of a decade I will say this. You learn to roll with whatever and you don’t get stressed out. Also just to reiterate… AA’s non-rev system is 10,000x better than this convoluted mess here at Delta.
Also, is it fair to the non-rev pilot on that next flight that you would bump them off their commute? No, it isn’t. There are certain things that simply aren’t controllable. As someone who has been commuting for the better part of a decade I will say this. You learn to roll with whatever and you don’t get stressed out. Also just to reiterate… AA’s non-rev system is 10,000x better than this convoluted mess here at Delta.
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