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Old 11-08-2022 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by igotgummed
I know that when I see a Capt wearing a hat I, and most of us, pretty much assume he’s an a-hole that sides with mgmt and not me.
I don’t know about a-hole, but he’s clearly showing his choice to side with management.

That being said, only a-holes advocate against their union brethren and side with management, so…
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Old 11-08-2022 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Damn I would hate to see it if they drag it out.
Oh, you'll probably get to see it
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Old 11-08-2022 | 05:32 AM
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There’s a reason why other airline pilots make fun of our pilot group’s culture.
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Old 11-08-2022 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TED74
I don’t know about a-hole, but he’s clearly showing his choice to side with management.

That being said, only a-holes advocate against their union brethren and side with management, so…
It is amazing that some are inconvenienced by doing less. In this case not wearing a hat.

If management doesn’t care then why wear it? If management does care then help out by not wearing it!

Boggles my mind.
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Old 11-08-2022 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by DisMyGamerTag
Strikes are a thing of the past.

Real leverage right now would be a lack of revenue due to a lack of pilots thanks to one of the carriers getting a great contract.

We saw that happen fast with the regionals.

But all of the majors are enjoying that nobody has cracked yet. And meanwhile we are catching up with hiring.

Our best leverage point was this past spring.
Regional pilots have one advantage over us: they can vote with their feet. All of these contracts are happening because majors and LCC's started drying up the regionals. I heard from a F9 union guy their last pay increase negotiations pre-covid were prompted by too many guys no-showing day 1 during Indoc. Nothing is gonna put the fire under the company's butt like pilots choosing anywhere else over us.
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Old 11-08-2022 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Falcon20
It is amazing that some are inconvenienced by doing less. In this case not wearing a hat.

If management doesn’t care then why wear it? If management does care then help out by not wearing it!

Boggles my mind.
99% voted to strike too. They are either too scared to show their true colors in public, or "I know what's the best strategy, the MEC is dumb and everyone is wrong except me".....or both
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Old 11-08-2022 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
Hey, at least we aren’t wearing our hats! That’ll show them… not. Biggest waste of time. I’m getting ready to start wearing mine again. It isn’t doing anything and I’m tired of having to spend time making my hair look presentable.
Go ahead and wear it then.
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Old 11-08-2022 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
Hey, at least we aren’t wearing our hats! That’ll show them… not. Biggest waste of time. I’m getting ready to start wearing mine again. It isn’t doing anything and I’m tired of having to spend time making my hair look presentable.
Hat hair, or headset hair?

Truly, negotiations hinge on the smallest of details.
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Old 11-08-2022 | 06:44 AM
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Wear the hat if you want or don’t wear it if that’s your preference. I won’t judge you on that single attribute and I ask you not to judge me.

I’m fairly new to this game and unions but I’ll support the team to the best of my ability. EB doesn’t seem like the kind to be influenced by our campaigns until it shows a clear impact on the numbers. That’s just business. I just hope his negotiating strategy does not cause irreparable harm to those of us who will be here long after he has cashed out with his millions.

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Old 11-08-2022 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FlexManFlex
Hey, at least we aren’t wearing our hats! That’ll show them… not. Biggest waste of time. I’m getting ready to start wearing mine again. It isn’t doing anything and I’m tired of having to spend time making my hair look presentable.
Haha….if you say so.

1) Delta was giving theNorthwest guys crap for showing up to training with jeans.

2) CQC mentions wearing your uniform when dealing with customers. In bold the say “including your hat”

3) I thought this was urban legend until I heard it myself twice: “We are the best pilots because of our uniform”

4) We are universally known for being business casual hardcore for jumpseaters.

They care more than you see. Now stand up for yourself a little bit.
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