18/5/5/5
11-20-2022, 01:53 PM
#251
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
Again, I am not negotiating Jack Squat, I am exercising my rights of free speech guaranteed under the Constitution. If the union wants to squash my opinions in public I have a foolproof way of doing it.... GET US A ****ING CONTRACT. Until then, they can **** and mind their own business.
11-20-2022, 02:13 PM
#252
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Originally Posted by OOfff
and yet, nobody ever tells the “rawr I’ll only take 30% back to 2019 and a $300k min balance plus up and my birthday off and nothing else” people to pipe down, only those who have more moderate views. Strange.
But you knew that.
11-20-2022, 02:40 PM
#253
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I know my minimum was 20 percent higher than current rates at beginning of 2022. Give that inflation in 9 percent, I now have a minimum of 30 percent higher than current rates in 2023. I feel these are on the low side. Anything less and I’m automatic no vote. I am willing to strike.
11-20-2022, 02:44 PM
#254
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I am also expecting a $60,000 retro check. 18/5/5/5 starting in 2022 is a slap in the face. It’s time to pay up.
11-20-2022, 04:12 PM
#255
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Originally Posted by OOfff
who is arguing against contractual improvements?
11-20-2022, 04:32 PM
#256
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Originally Posted by Iceberg
Anyone attempting to make the case that our ask is too high. When someone doesn’t have the specifics yet claims it was too high, they are arguing against the union’s efforts to improve the contract.
11-20-2022, 05:19 PM
#257
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Originally Posted by OOfff
what’s our ask? Sailing is the only person who has ever talked about our ask.
11-20-2022, 05:36 PM
#258
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Originally Posted by OOfff
what’s our ask? Sailing is the only person who has ever talked about our ask.
As far as I can tell, their opener was in fact just a list of priorities developed from the input of the membership. Regular polling has continually updated the NC through the MEC of our evolving priorities. That’s in strong contrast to the UAL MEC, who didn’t poll, agreed to a TA that met almost no one’s needs, and had it rejected by 94% of voters.
11-20-2022, 05:49 PM
#259
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Originally Posted by OOfff
and yet, nobody ever tells the “rawr I’ll only take 30% back to 2019 and a $300k min balance plus up and my birthday off and nothing else” people to pipe down, only those who have more moderate views. Strange.
11-20-2022, 06:22 PM
#260
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Originally Posted by ebl14
Maybe think about this a little harder to understand how your view of what is “realistic” may be hindering our efforts at the negotiating table. If you really do believe your opinion of what is attainable at the table is accurate and is well below your co workers’ estimations, maybe just keep it to yourself on social platforms. Who knows, maybe the realist or even the optimist projection will prevail, win for all.
