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11-20-2022 | 05:24 AM
#231
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From: N60.4858 W149.9327
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Let us be completely clear – despite social media concern otherwise -- there is no “rush to a deal” posture being suddenly adopted. The expectations of Delta pilots, as indicated by ongoing polling and direct feedback, are rightly increasing with every month that passes beyond our amendable date. Every “thanks for all you do” memo, every CPI report, every TA at a regional airline, and every TV interview by Delta’s executive leadership delivering endless good news about the health of our airline serve as a reminder that our priorities and expectations are justified.
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In Closing
As we get closer to a comprehensive TA, the likelihood that you will hear false rumors of a deal will only increase. One thing is certain, individuals who “leak” inaccurate or out-of-context information have many different agendas. The resultant “negotiating in public” via trial balloons can damage our ability to maximize leverage at the table. We ask that you trust this process and your union’s commitment to bringing you nothing less than the C2019 you’ve earned. Only trust information from official sources: the NC, the MEC and your LEC Representatives.
Thank you for your continued engagement and support. Your unity and resolve are needed now more than ever to help push this contract over the finish line.
In Unity,
Eric, *******, and Rich
Let us be completely clear – despite social media concern otherwise -- there is no “rush to a deal” posture being suddenly adopted. The expectations of Delta pilots, as indicated by ongoing polling and direct feedback, are rightly increasing with every month that passes beyond our amendable date. Every “thanks for all you do” memo, every CPI report, every TA at a regional airline, and every TV interview by Delta’s executive leadership delivering endless good news about the health of our airline serve as a reminder that our priorities and expectations are justified.
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In Closing
As we get closer to a comprehensive TA, the likelihood that you will hear false rumors of a deal will only increase. One thing is certain, individuals who “leak” inaccurate or out-of-context information have many different agendas. The resultant “negotiating in public” via trial balloons can damage our ability to maximize leverage at the table. We ask that you trust this process and your union’s commitment to bringing you nothing less than the C2019 you’ve earned. Only trust information from official sources: the NC, the MEC and your LEC Representatives.
Thank you for your continued engagement and support. Your unity and resolve are needed now more than ever to help push this contract over the finish line.
In Unity,
Eric, *******, and Rich
11-20-2022 | 05:50 AM
#232
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Oh snap I got called one of the 3 Stooges. I'm honored to be in the hall of fame of someone who took their ball and ran home after getting critiqued about their free "newsletter" investment advise. Wonder how that portfolio is doing. Down 70%? 80%? 
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11-20-2022 | 05:51 AM
#233
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For the record - I have not received a PM from anyone complaining in over a month, and if I am correct in identifying the "three stooges" I have never received a complaint from any of them - ever, but hey I've only been a Mod for about 10 years.
If someone posts something stupid - by all means call them out on it, but the whole "narrative" theme is getting tiresome. I often challenge Sailingfun when I disagree with him but make no mistake - he is one of the most knowlegeable posters on here. Do I always agree with him - hell no, but so what - I like hearing different opinions. The last thing we want is an echo chamber. I appreciate your opinions as much as anyone's - keep em coming.
Scoop
If someone posts something stupid - by all means call them out on it, but the whole "narrative" theme is getting tiresome. I often challenge Sailingfun when I disagree with him but make no mistake - he is one of the most knowlegeable posters on here. Do I always agree with him - hell no, but so what - I like hearing different opinions. The last thing we want is an echo chamber. I appreciate your opinions as much as anyone's - keep em coming.
Scoop
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11-20-2022 | 07:15 AM
#234
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Don’t say that on here! Otherwise the three stooges will get upset and demand that you stop trying to silence people who disagree with you. Then they go cry to the mods saying they’re being personally attacked.
Lol. This whole thread is full of dumb posts. Mostly by the three stooges. I can’t say their names because they cry to the mods. They have fun when they sail. 3=7+7+7 ?? Last but not least a guy who completely blanked when he signed up for APC and so he uses two letters OOO and FFF.
Lol. This whole thread is full of dumb posts. Mostly by the three stooges. I can’t say their names because they cry to the mods. They have fun when they sail. 3=7+7+7 ?? Last but not least a guy who completely blanked when he signed up for APC and so he uses two letters OOO and FFF.
you seem pretty upset
11-20-2022 | 08:09 AM
#235
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From: A350 Both
I still don't know how some think that a bunch of dudes on a web forum are undermining anything. Nobody in their right mind, certainly not the company, believes that this forum or Chitchat represent a majority of the pilots. If they do, we have a really stupid bunch of people running this company, and I don't believe that for a second.
11-20-2022 | 08:10 AM
#236
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11-20-2022 | 08:21 AM
#237
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I still don't know how some think that a bunch of dudes on a web forum are undermining anything. Nobody in their right mind, certainly not the company, believes that this forum or Chitchat represent a majority of the pilots. If they do, we have a really stupid bunch of people running this company, and I don't believe that for a second.
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11-20-2022 | 08:41 AM
#238
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I still don't know how some think that a bunch of dudes on a web forum are undermining anything. Nobody in their right mind, certainly not the company, believes that this forum or Chitchat represent a majority of the pilots. If they do, we have a really stupid bunch of people running this company, and I don't believe that for a second.
11-20-2022 | 08:47 AM
#239
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and yet, nobody ever tells the “rawr I’ll only take 30% back to 2019 and a $300k min balance plus up and my birthday off and nothing else” people to pipe down, only those who have more moderate views. Strange.
11-20-2022 | 09:14 AM
#240
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There is certainly a difference in the response to those who are arguing against contractual improvements but it’s not one directional. Your example of the min balance is an easy example of an ask that has had a lot of push back.
