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11-19-2022, 06:37 AM

#201

Buck Rogers

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Originally Posted by DisMyGamerTag

........the company nor ALPA seem to care much about retaining and recruiting.

Retaining and recruiting who? New hires???

11-19-2022, 06:51 AM

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DisMyGamerTag

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Retaining and recruiting who? New hires???

LCPs

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11-19-2022, 07:05 AM

#203

Buck Rogers

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Originally Posted by DisMyGamerTag

LCPs

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Gotcha .....Are they currently having a problem in that regard? I realize a new contract will shift behavior depending on the gets

11-19-2022, 07:28 AM

#204

gzsg

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Rumor from the schoolhouse that we are going to hire 200 a month for all of 2023.

Maybe preparing to cover flying from Endeavor as they implode?

11-19-2022, 07:31 AM

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gzsg

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I think 24/5/5 would be a better thread title now that all 3 of American’s regionals are paying $100,000 bonuses.

The other regionals (including Endeavor) will have to match this or cease to exist.

11-19-2022, 09:11 AM

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Looks like the regional gravy train might be ending in the next year or two.

Pilot Supply Much Stronger Than Demand

11-19-2022, 09:42 AM

#207

gzsg

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UAL AA SWA DAL are hiring over 8000 a year minimum. Peaks in 3 years then 5 more years of massive retirements.

It is going to get far worse.

Tier 2 carriers and regionals are in for severe pain.

11-19-2022, 09:44 AM

#208

gzsg

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Originally Posted by Vsop

Looks like the regional gravy train might be ending in the next year or two.

Pilot Supply Much Stronger Than Demand

With regard to the gravy train some clueless legacy pilots think the regional rates will magically disappear. The Endeavor rates are contractual and run through 2029.

Hardly a year or two.

11-19-2022, 09:54 AM

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DeltaboundRedux

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

No, When you do get a new contract look back however and see how close it matches what I predicted. We are moving closer and closer as each month passes buy. I can tell that annoys some of you. I will be fishing, diving and sailing while trying to be around positive people!

No prophet is ever accepted in his hometown.

11-19-2022, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gzsg

With regard to the gravy train some clueless legacy pilots think the regional rates will magically disappear. The Endeavor rates are contractual and run through 2029.

Hardly a year or two.

Historically the rates don't "magically disappear", the most expensive regionals just get shut down. Start up a new regional or two with lower rates and manufacture a scenario to kill the expensive ones. Many "clueless legacy pilots" have the t-shirt.