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Old 11-18-2022, 01:42 PM
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At least retiring military guys will be given CJOís 24 months out!
Solves the issue I posted about. They donít get snapped up by another airline with a more efficient and shorter hiring system like UAL.
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Old 11-18-2022, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
Will you be the smartest guy on the boat? Somehow Iím afraid so.

Enjoy your retirement.
In this case I really wish I had been very wrong. You of course were one of the people who virtually guaranteed a on time historic contract. I have asked you several times what went wrong. You have not answered. Had you been right I could upgrade the boat!!
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Old 11-18-2022, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Der Meister View Post
I agree with the new MEC guy. Nothing like full FPL while out on LTD...getting 100+hrs a month instead of 60% LDT. Sign me up!
Itís actually 50% of FAE (highest 12 consecutive months in previous 36). So itís even more egregious.
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Old 11-18-2022, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by blue vortex View Post
Like it or not guys heís right.
How so? There are no facts because there isnít a contract. Sailing threw out a WAG of negativity because he didnít agree with the method. Now he says heís correct because he said a billion even though heís admitted the value has surpassed that by a third with some big portions left to go. He canít prove the final value of this contract just like he canít prove his way would have worked better.

He now needs to stop throwing out lowballs and talking of how everyone will settle for less than at the beginning of negotiations. In other words, unite with the pilot group and support the NC in their task.
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Old 11-18-2022, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
Everybody on here is negotiating in public. It sure looks like the MEC is trying to walk back their demands. Would posting you want more be the same issue? If they announce a modest contact will you be on here complaining?
Funny, I donít see any walking back.

Do you think you could join your fellow pilot group and stop undermining the NC?
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Old 11-18-2022, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post
How so? There are no facts because there isnít a contract. Sailing threw out a WAG of negativity because he didnít agree with the method. Now he says heís correct because he said a billion even though heís admitted the value has surpassed that by a third with some big portions left to go. He canít prove the final value of this contract just like he canít prove his way would have worked better.

He now needs to stop throwing out lowballs and talking of how everyone will settle for less than at the beginning of negotiations. In other words, unite with the pilot group and support the NC in their task.
Well we did not get a contract did we?
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Old 11-18-2022, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post
Do you think you could join your fellow pilot group and stop undermining the NC?
Thereís value in having Sailing on these boards. There would also be value if Ed was on here. Both have proven their underlying intent to undermine the NC.
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Old 11-18-2022, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun View Post
In this case I really wish I had been very wrong. You of course were one of the people who virtually guaranteed a on time historic contract. I have asked you several times what went wrong. You have not answered. Had you been right I could upgrade the boat!!
still waiting to see what we have walked back
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Old 11-18-2022, 05:58 PM
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still waiting to see what we have walked back
Word on the street is full retro is unlikely and that the mediator sides with the company about exempting 2020.

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Old 11-18-2022, 07:32 PM
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Word on the street is full retro is unlikely and that the mediator sides with the company about exempting 2020.

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Then it's a simple no vote and we are back in mediation. Seems dumb but ok
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