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#192

The value is not even close to a billion in 2019. If the 1.38 billion figure is correct that’s for 2023 not 2020. My personal min was around 1 billion in 2020. If you take the highest current rumor and we got full retro for 2020 we would get about 240 million for that year. With 5% raises in 2021and 2022 the 1 billion I wanted in 2020 becomes about 1.4 billion in the last year of the contract. 1.6 billion if a 5% raise for 2023.
#193
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Maybe tunes is a better resource to correct me but wasnt the companies position we get no change on top end scope or bottomn end scope, we could have 3% or maybe a bit more, but if we wanted anything besides that we had to give on scheduling so we could fix their staffing f up?
Like, if thats their position i hope we shot way outside the zone of reasonableness.
And obviously, weve both come down off our ask some as we both were going to do.
Like, if thats their position i hope we shot way outside the zone of reasonableness.
And obviously, weve both come down off our ask some as we both were going to do.
#195
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#196

If we don't get a deal done by year end, I see another trial balloon going up involving rumots of MBCBP hang ups, large six figure signing bonus offered, and management suggestion that bookings are starting to be impacted by a possible recession. At that point we'd enter an Avengers like Endgame. Anyone got popcorn?
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#197

256 was industry leading so that was our ask. Your ask would have been...?
#199

The wait allows the staffing debacle to get full light. If we would have settled early there would have been 0 QOL items and probably gives. The reduction in hiring rumor works in our favor because there's no more "productivity need." As for the cycle, covid is real and a 4% raise 2x for non-cons was real. My 4/4/12 retro is well within the zone as proven by Delta. If you are saying we are short for holding out, reference Scoops post. More in follow on years will compound on the higher (inflation adjusted) rates. Had we settled before the inflation rise we would be behind. Now we have the data to make it right. Inflation +5%, minimum. You can count on that. And if your with me I'll hold out for your retro of $3B.
#200
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I do know in training for the months of November and December they kicked captains out to the line across fleets or most fleets which makes sense because flying is high. But it looks like the same for January which is not a high fly month. Training is not busy but OE is behind on some fleets.
Without LCPs the whole pipeline collapses. Hopefully they’re learning that but with that section already having a lame AIP it looks like the company nor ALPA seem to care much about retaining and recruiting.