Schedule Poachers!!
01-03-2023 | 08:03 AM
#111
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Joined: May 2015
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From: A350 Both
January bid period and the “questionable” awards continue. Same pilot drops a “non desirable” multi day trip using FMLA over holidays and into New Years. Now, on days that were originally dropped for “FMLA” pilot is out flying a more “desirable” trip for premium pay. And again schedule is blocked……
Meanwhile, I have been trying to drop the same block of days using IVD and coverage was still too low and it was denied.
If the employee no longer needed FMLA, that pilot should have been placed back on original schedule (trip was in open time) not assigned a premium pay trip. I believe this is abusing the system for personal gain at the detriment of fellow pilots. Am I wrong here?
Meanwhile, I have been trying to drop the same block of days using IVD and coverage was still too low and it was denied.
If the employee no longer needed FMLA, that pilot should have been placed back on original schedule (trip was in open time) not assigned a premium pay trip. I believe this is abusing the system for personal gain at the detriment of fellow pilots. Am I wrong here?
Don't hold your breath though.
01-03-2023 | 05:29 PM
#112
On Reserve
Joined: Dec 2022
Posts: 17
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Again, you don’t have the facts. She has a family member that requires round the clock care and care givers aren’t available 24/7. Especially holidays. Sorry her misfortunes are an inconvenience for you. You don’t know everyone’s story so perhaps you can assume FMLA was granted by the company for a legitimate reason.
The way you make it sound, she’s out exchanging “favors” to CS and the CPO so she can get a schedule better than yours and her schedule is blocked in order to cover it all up.
OR, she has legitimate reasons for FMLA and she knows how to work the PCS’s.
What’s more likely?
I actually encourage you all with the concerns to raise it to your LEC. 100% no malice will be found.
“don’t hate the player, hate the game”
The way you make it sound, she’s out exchanging “favors” to CS and the CPO so she can get a schedule better than yours and her schedule is blocked in order to cover it all up.
OR, she has legitimate reasons for FMLA and she knows how to work the PCS’s.
What’s more likely?
I actually encourage you all with the concerns to raise it to your LEC. 100% no malice will be found.
“don’t hate the player, hate the game”
01-03-2023 | 06:13 PM
#113
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Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,152
Likes: 130
Again, you don’t have the facts. She has a family member that requires round the clock care and care givers aren’t available 24/7. Especially holidays. Sorry her misfortunes are an inconvenience for you. You don’t know everyone’s story so perhaps you can assume FMLA was granted by the company for a legitimate reason.
The way you make it sound, she’s out exchanging “favors” to CS and the CPO so she can get a schedule better than yours and her schedule is blocked in order to cover it all up.
OR, she has legitimate reasons for FMLA and she knows how to work the PCS’s.
What’s more likely?
I actually encourage you all with the concerns to raise it to your LEC. 100% no malice will be found.
“don’t hate the player, hate the game”
The way you make it sound, she’s out exchanging “favors” to CS and the CPO so she can get a schedule better than yours and her schedule is blocked in order to cover it all up.
OR, she has legitimate reasons for FMLA and she knows how to work the PCS’s.
What’s more likely?
I actually encourage you all with the concerns to raise it to your LEC. 100% no malice will be found.
“don’t hate the player, hate the game”
The problem with schedule blocks is the masses are left to trust everything is contractual and policies are being applied uniformly across the seniority list. Don’t hate the player trying to play the game with restricted access to information.
01-03-2023 | 06:14 PM
#114
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 1,431
Likes: 175
Again, you don’t have the facts. She has a family member that requires round the clock care and care givers aren’t available 24/7. Especially holidays. Sorry her misfortunes are an inconvenience for you. You don’t know everyone’s story so perhaps you can assume FMLA was granted by the company for a legitimate reason.
The way you make it sound, she’s out exchanging “favors” to CS and the CPO so she can get a schedule better than yours and her schedule is blocked in order to cover it all up.
OR, she has legitimate reasons for FMLA and she knows how to work the PCS’s.
What’s more likely?
I actually encourage you all with the concerns to raise it to your LEC. 100% no malice will be found.
“don’t hate the player, hate the game”
The way you make it sound, she’s out exchanging “favors” to CS and the CPO so she can get a schedule better than yours and her schedule is blocked in order to cover it all up.
OR, she has legitimate reasons for FMLA and she knows how to work the PCS’s.
What’s more likely?
I actually encourage you all with the concerns to raise it to your LEC. 100% no malice will be found.
“don’t hate the player, hate the game”
EDIT: I don’t mean to sound uncaring and I hope her family is ok and all, I’m just saying I get the angst over it.
Last edited by 20Fathoms; 01-03-2023 at 06:24 PM.
01-03-2023 | 06:42 PM
#115
On Reserve
Joined: Dec 2022
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
No, her family is not okay, and they never will be until they pass at some point.
The angst and hate over this individual’s very real and legitimate situation is ridiculous. why don’t you just reach out to her and ask her directly? You know her name, you can e-mail her or look her up on FB.
The angst and hate over this individual’s very real and legitimate situation is ridiculous. why don’t you just reach out to her and ask her directly? You know her name, you can e-mail her or look her up on FB.
01-03-2023 | 06:56 PM
#116
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Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,558
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No, her family is not okay, and they never will be until they pass at some point.
The angst and hate over this individual’s very real and legitimate situation is ridiculous. why don’t you just reach out to her and ask her directly? You know her name, you can e-mail her or look her up on FB.
The angst and hate over this individual’s very real and legitimate situation is ridiculous. why don’t you just reach out to her and ask her directly? You know her name, you can e-mail her or look her up on FB.
01-03-2023 | 06:56 PM
#117
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,605
Likes: 12
From: A320 Left seat
January bid period and the “questionable” awards continue. Same pilot drops a “non desirable” multi day trip using FMLA over holidays and into New Years. Now, on days that were originally dropped for “FMLA” pilot is out flying a more “desirable” trip for premium pay. And again schedule is blocked……
Meanwhile, I have been trying to drop the same block of days using IVD and coverage was still too low and it was denied.
If the employee no longer needed FMLA, that pilot should have been placed back on original schedule (trip was in open time) not assigned a premium pay trip. I believe this is abusing the system for personal gain at the detriment of fellow pilots. Am I wrong here?
Meanwhile, I have been trying to drop the same block of days using IVD and coverage was still too low and it was denied.
If the employee no longer needed FMLA, that pilot should have been placed back on original schedule (trip was in open time) not assigned a premium pay trip. I believe this is abusing the system for personal gain at the detriment of fellow pilots. Am I wrong here?
01-03-2023 | 07:02 PM
#118
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,605
Likes: 12
From: A320 Left seat
No, her family is not okay, and they never will be until they pass at some point.
The angst and hate over this individual’s very real and legitimate situation is ridiculous. why don’t you just reach out to her and ask her directly? You know her name, you can e-mail her or look her up on FB.
The angst and hate over this individual’s very real and legitimate situation is ridiculous. why don’t you just reach out to her and ask her directly? You know her name, you can e-mail her or look her up on FB.
01-03-2023 | 07:05 PM
#119
Line Holder
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 368
Likes: 38
From: A319/321 FO
this manipulation is messed up. It sours the company to FMLA and will ultimately make it harder for the rest of us to use legitimately
can we pass a resolution in Lec meeting to stop the blocked schedule ability?
imo this fmla needs immediate review.
I am so annoyed that one can get premium pay in the footprint of it is pure abuse.
01-03-2023 | 07:09 PM
#120
On Reserve
Joined: Dec 2022
Posts: 17
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Can you explain to us, why it’s ok to drop a trip for FMLA and then get a GS over those same days? What is so virtuous about her situation? I’m very sorry she has a battle at home with the health of family, I’m guessing, but there is nothing you can say to defend dropping and picking up a GS over those same days while saying her FMLA obligation required that.
