Schedule Poachers!!
01-04-2023 | 07:48 AM
#151
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I don’t think anyone here has a problem with FMLA use, even if it happen to “benefit” the person by getting rid of a crappy trip over a holiday (personally unsavory to me, but I digress).
the problem is two-fold,
1) said pilot was accused of picking up a premium pay trip within the footprint of the FMLA drop (is this even possible? I don’t know) … if this part is true, it needs to be changed in our contract to not allow this, or at least treat it like sick so you go to the back of the line
2) there is no easy way to verify the level of manipulation that is being done when the persons schedule is blocked from viewing. If I were NYC320A, I’d be taking a real close look at someone else getting an advantage by playing fast and loose with the interpretation/application of the contract.
if it’s a one-time “good deal” then that’s a different story.. but right now we don’t know what we don’t know.. that’s the rub
the problem is two-fold,
1) said pilot was accused of picking up a premium pay trip within the footprint of the FMLA drop (is this even possible? I don’t know) … if this part is true, it needs to be changed in our contract to not allow this, or at least treat it like sick so you go to the back of the line
2) there is no easy way to verify the level of manipulation that is being done when the persons schedule is blocked from viewing. If I were NYC320A, I’d be taking a real close look at someone else getting an advantage by playing fast and loose with the interpretation/application of the contract.
if it’s a one-time “good deal” then that’s a different story.. but right now we don’t know what we don’t know.. that’s the rub
01-04-2023 | 07:56 AM
#152
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Ok…I’m not her but if you think I’m her, then why don’t you contact me? I’ve got nothing to prove, but I’m most certainly not her. However, it’s understandable why you’d think that.
Talk to your rep if you think there’s some sort of massive fraud taking place. I think you’ll be disappointed at what the investigation uncovers.
Talk to your rep if you think there’s some sort of massive fraud taking place. I think you’ll be disappointed at what the investigation uncovers.
It’s suspicious that someone would block their schedule while utilizing FMLA during a holiday, then pick up a trip during the same block at a premium. It’s suspicious because they’re blocking their schedule so they essentially can’t be tracked. Even if you utilized FMLA, then picked up a greeny I wouldn’t question said individual. The trip may work around their family’s needs, BUT using FMLA while blocking their schedule is suspicious.
Nobody should be allowed to block their schedule. That needs to be changed. If you are utilizing FMLA honestly then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
01-04-2023 | 08:10 AM
#154
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I don’t care enough to contact you personally, settle down. I’m giving my opinion on the matter only.
It’s suspicious that someone would block their schedule while utilizing FMLA during a holiday, then pick up a trip during the same block at a premium. It’s suspicious because they’re blocking their schedule so they essentially can’t be tracked. Even if you utilized FMLA, then picked up a greeny I wouldn’t question said individual. The trip may work around their family’s needs, BUT using FMLA while blocking their schedule is suspicious.
Nobody should be allowed to block their schedule. That needs to be changed. If you are utilizing FMLA honestly then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
It’s suspicious that someone would block their schedule while utilizing FMLA during a holiday, then pick up a trip during the same block at a premium. It’s suspicious because they’re blocking their schedule so they essentially can’t be tracked. Even if you utilized FMLA, then picked up a greeny I wouldn’t question said individual. The trip may work around their family’s needs, BUT using FMLA while blocking their schedule is suspicious.
Nobody should be allowed to block their schedule. That needs to be changed. If you are utilizing FMLA honestly then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
01-04-2023 | 08:11 AM
#155
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I think the issue is that this thread is fomenting suspicion and Ill will against a fellow pilot (who can easily be doxxed at this point by anyone with icrew access) who pipefitter and I know, who isn’t doing anything untoward and has specific and entirely aboveboard reasons for all of her scheduling moves.
01-04-2023 | 09:19 AM
#156
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No, her family is not okay, and they never will be until they pass at some point.
The angst and hate over this individual’s very real and legitimate situation is ridiculous. why don’t you just reach out to her and ask her directly? You know her name, you can e-mail her or look her up on FB.
The angst and hate over this individual’s very real and legitimate situation is ridiculous. why don’t you just reach out to her and ask her directly? You know her name, you can e-mail her or look her up on FB.
01-04-2023 | 09:26 AM
#157
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Is it unfortunate for this pilot that they are being scrutinized? Yes. The only way I see to avoid it though, would be for all trips to be assigned correctly in the first place (a far fetched dream) and full schedule transparency.
01-04-2023 | 09:29 AM
#158
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Obviously she/Piper doesn’t like directly addressing what pilots are actually against: picking up GS’s and blocking schedules while on “FMLA.” Nobody is against FMLA, but she/Piper would rather gaslight everyone with that supposition.
01-04-2023 | 09:34 AM
#159
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So are you against someone on mil leave doing the exact same thing?
01-04-2023 | 09:37 AM
#160
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Of course not, but if their schedule is blocked and it is always conveniently working out the same way and it is overly suspicious, I see no reason why it can’t be discussed and questioned. I get it that you’re not much of a free speech advocate, but I’ll keep discussing and questioning things I choose to anyway.
