DryClutch

You seem like you might be involved with Propel, and this is just honest curiosity probably from a lot of us as we don't know anything about it really. What is the interview like, and what sort of extended long term scrutiny are they under that the average line guy having line checks and CQ isn't?

TNDeltaFlyboy

It's been around for 5 or so years now so I've flown with and crossed paths with many who have worked in the program. I'm told they apply, test, and interview upfront. Then they have to finish up their degree and get get to their R-ATP mins. After that they go down one of the career paths; most go the DCC route I think. There's a time limit apparently they will be on their path but they also have to meet the minimum 1000 turbine like OTS people. after all that they have to come in a do the MMPI, shrink and background check then wait for a class date. The scrutiny I referred to is the mentoring aspect. They are required to regularly check in with their mentor who are active Delta pilots and write up assessments (I think that's the term?) about their progress. The mentors do that, too. So, Delta apparently tracks their progress quite frequently. So, that tells me there's ample ways to get tripped up.

I know that's all second-hand but the sources are good. I'm convinced Propel isn't just around to put bodies in seats. They are making substantial investments in these people.

Meme In Command

Say a Propel pilot makes it to a regional and they're immediately offered an interview/ CJO at a ULCC/LCC or competing legacy. Would leaving Propel to pursue this be a black mark on them? Lots of junior guys at regionals are realizing it's all about seniority and that they can get hired at Delta way faster by punching out to a competing airline instead of sticking it out for longer at the regional level.

LAXtoDEN

I attended a well known part 141 flight school. It was one of the first schools to partner with Delta Propel. I am very well informed with the program lol.

I take back my statement about the interview comparable to Burger King. The Delta propel interview is just a formality for 30 mins with a Delta pilot recruiter. It’s easier than an interview at Burger King!

The “selection process” for the “interview” was based on a recommendation from either a parent employed at Delta, family member, or potentially a family friend.

The best aspect of the Delta Propel program is the anonymity of it all. Probably best you keep it that way. You’ve done a good job of staying away from the specifics in your posts.

TNDeltaFlyboy

I asked a similar question a while back and no one could really give a definitive answer. That tells me the decision would fall on those running the program. However, I think it’s common knowledge someone can leave the program whenever they want since there’s no binding agreement in place. I just don’t know if that would lead to that black mark you ask about.

TNDeltaFlyboy

Propel has no recruiters that do interviews. They have interview teams. Also, it was made clear to me because I asked that no one can get a recommendation who applies so that’s a swing and a miss. I don’t think Delta would waste money on a selection process just to make the final decision based on a biased family/friend recommendation.

LAXtoDEN

Every candidate that goes through a Delta interview and given a CJO meets with the shrink and goes through a background check after.

I posted you were doing a great job of not giving out the details, then you decided to post the dead giveaways of the entire program.

You’re correct, it’s NOT to fill bodies in seats at Delta. It’s to fill bodies in seats at one of their DCI regionals. That’s why I have a personal distaste for the program. And yes those pilots are rewarded with a quicker path to Delta but I could care less about that.

TNDeltaFlyboy

There's no real anonymity about it any more, especially after 5 years. What secret info is being discussed here? For someone with a distaste for it you sure do care about sharing dead giveaways.

No one is required to go to a DCI regional, they have clear options so that's another swing and a miss. Unless of course you've heard of people in the program being forced to go to a DCI? If so, that would be big news.

LAXtoDEN

Oh really they can work at any regional or ULCC?! I’m aware of the other options, but hey let’s just keep bending around the truth of the whole program, this is fun.

Let me know when you find a Delta Propel pilot working at Spirit or Envoy and I’ll take back everything I said.

TNDeltaFlyboy

That's not what I said. The 3 options they have are DCI, Wheels Up and the military. Yes, apparently most go the DCI route but that's because they choose that route. If i'm wrong, please show me the truth.

What "bending of the truth" is going on? Be specific. Again, for someone who disdains the program you appear to be somewhat of a defender of it.