Buck Rogers

Yes, you are absolutely right. Styrofoam cups are totally analogous to biofuels.

Never underestimate the power of offending people even though that is not your intention. Again, it's not part of advertising yet as Oofff pointed out

Ants....elephants


BTW I use words like, "personally", or, "I feel" or, "I'm not convinced"..... those words connotate a greyness in the subject matter. Why does this have to be black and white for you?

CBreezy

It's the same general concept on a larger scale. A cost cutting measure masqueraded as an environmental responsible action. If you aren't offended by biofuels, you shouldn't be offended by cups. And, for the record, the reason it hasn't been advertised is because they were not supposed to be used on passengers. The cups were only for use with crews, for whatever reason.

Buck Rogers

Ok...you and Tropical need to get together (or maybe you are one and the same)......show me where I said I was offended by the cups.

BTW, I was amending my last post as you were typing this last one but it is even more germane now with all your inferring and misquoting me.

Hubcapped

How could this affect people negatively? I’m curious. Please explain

Jaww

Everybody is missing the point.

Do we get to call the new cups pilot cups? If not, I riot.

CBreezy

I'm not accusing you of anything. You are the one, however, that said there is a negative to appealing to the ESG crowd and I'm asking how that's possible?

OOfff

having seen that the coal rolling f350 crowd exists, sadly I think there are a few

Buck Rogers

Well, right wrong or indifferent, some people just get tired of having their nose rubbed in other peoples "issue of the day". I think they feel like, "just do it and quit telling me how great you are". Some people take offense at "grandstanding"

An example....An acquaintance remarked they are tired of every (most) TV shows that they watch(ed) HAS to have a gay plot/sub plot. Shows that they mentioned were 17 years of watching NCIS recent intro gay, NCIS Hawaii( from the 1st show) prominent subplot, Quantum Leap the(trans/nonbinary) same....so they started watching more Hallmark....same same with the gays. Their thoughts were they understand that there are gays but they are tired of their nose getting rubbed in it and (their opinion) making a huge effort to normalize it.

So, right, wrong or indifferent, that is their opinion. I am not here to defend it nor support it....but the "social proselytizing" of ESG Styrofoam cups would be analogous for them. Whether it would result in buy/not buy decisions is nebulous but they would find the "advertising " as hypocritical and "nose rubbing"

OOfff

If people think the company saying “hey, we are doing something that improves our environment” is “rubbing someone’s nose in” anything, that’s their problem, and speaks more about them than what the company is doing.

CBreezy

Why does it matter if it's a gay or straight romantic subplot? Is it that they were just used to their entertainment not having any gay people in it even though they are prominent in today's society? You could even say the same thing for women and other minorities? Why do the cop shows now have more women that are cops instead of just receptionists? There are people who will get offended by any mention of the word gay or women's rights and that, of course, is their right. That doesn't mean everyone else should have to ignore them too.