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Old 04-25-2026 | 06:15 AM
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You sure about that?
Obviously that's a much different quote than the original. I'll recant
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Old 04-25-2026 | 07:32 AM
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Don't forget when he advocated for LOA/termination for pilots who didn't want the covid vaccine.
I don't remember any comms on this. I'm assuming this is some inside baseball stuff?

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Old 04-25-2026 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by All 5 Stages
I don't remember any comms on this. I'm assuming this is some inside baseball stuff?

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I'm talking about Trip, not Gummpster

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Old 04-25-2026 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GutterGuard
I'm talking about Trip, not Gummpster
Trip is often wrong on many things. He'll be wrong about oil and jet fuel as well. Not sure what motivates him in that regard.

Anyway, glad someone dug this up from the past before I did. I was about ready too (see our back and forth in the Q1 sub). He is a stand up guy though and he admits when he gets it wrong, and that is an admirable quality in a person.
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Old 04-26-2026 | 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Trip is often wrong on many things. He'll be wrong about oil and jet fuel as well. Not sure what motivates him in that regard.

Anyway, glad someone dug this up from the past before I did. I was about ready too (see our back and forth in the Q1 sub). He is a stand up guy though and he admits when he gets it wrong, and that is an admirable quality in a person.
Somebody did a lot of digging just to try find a track record of "wrong calls" in order to feel better about the Energy Crisis that's coming. I will not be wrong in jet fuel and Oil because that is just 4th grade math.

There is not enough information state that Capt Gumm is solely at fault for what is happening to the pilot group. The current operational mess is a melting pot of issues which IMHO, stem from Centennial year related cost savings initiatives combined with 23M7/batch size issues.

Somebody did a lot of digging just to try find a track record of "wrong calls" in order to feel better about the Energy Crisis that's coming. I will not be wrong on jet fuel and Oil because that is just 4th grade math. We will find out very quickly in May/June timeframe.

I was wrong about Capt Gumm being an asset to the pilot group and that was a poor choice of word on my part. The real asset to the pilot group is DALPA which has been nothing short of outstanding over the years. I'm not saying Capt Gumm is solely at fault for the company's operational meltdown as there seems to be some type of external pressure on Flight Ops to cut cost, especially during the Centennial year, but my asset and serving the pilot group claim was wrong. It's been DALPA, not Capt. Gumm.

Just like folks are lasered focused WTI/Brent futures instead of looking at the big picture critical shortages of diesel and jet fuel, folks these days are lasered on finding every instance someone is wrong. One can have a laser focus on the majority of the time and elite baseball hitter is unsuccessful and completely miss the big picture.






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Old 04-26-2026 | 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Somebody did a lot of digging just to try find a track record of "wrong calls" in order to feel better about the Energy Crisis that's coming. I will not be wrong in jet fuel and Oil because that is just 4th grade math.

There is not enough information state that Capt Gumm is solely at fault for what is happening to the pilot group. The current operational mess is a melting pot of issues which IMHO, stem from Centennial year related cost savings initiatives combined with 23M7/batch size issues.

Somebody did a lot of digging just to try find a track record of "wrong calls" in order to feel better about the Energy Crisis that's coming. I will not be wrong on jet fuel and Oil because that is just 4th grade math. We will find out very quickly in May/June timeframe.

I was wrong about Capt Gumm being an asset to the pilot group and that was a poor choice of word on my part. The real asset to the pilot group is DALPA which has been nothing short of outstanding over the years. I'm not saying Capt Gumm is solely at fault for the company's operational meltdown as there seems to be some type of external pressure on Flight Ops to cut cost, especially during the Centennial year, but my asset and serving the pilot group claim was wrong. It's been DALPA, not Capt. Gumm.

Just like folks are lasered focused WTI/Brent futures instead of looking at the big picture critical shortages of diesel and jet fuel, folks these days are lasered on finding every instance someone is wrong. One can have a laser focus on the majority of the time and elite baseball hitter is unsuccessful and completely miss the big picture.
While the centennial profit push certainly ran us over the edge, I think most people have been seeing a downward trend that just so happens to have started right around when Gumm came into FLOPs leadership. He was the one who found some “efficiencies” that caused the first summer of running “a little hot”. COVID aside, from that point on we have been in an increasing short staffed environment. They kept relying more and more on pilots picking up premium flying but that well has run dry. That was all under Gumms leadership, and that’s not even taking into consideration the imposition in crew scheduling that took place under him as well. I don’t doubt that there are other factors at play as well from people above him that got us into this situation, but by and large the fruit we are reaping today is a direct result of the operational decisions that Gumm has had in place for many years.
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Old 04-26-2026 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Somebody did a lot of digging just to try find a track record of "wrong calls" in order to feel better about the Energy Crisis that's coming. I will not be wrong in jet fuel and Oil because that is just 4th grade math.

There is not enough information state that Capt Gumm is solely at fault for what is happening to the pilot group. The current operational mess is a melting pot of issues which IMHO, stem from Centennial year related cost savings initiatives combined with 23M7/batch size issues.

Somebody did a lot of digging just to try find a track record of "wrong calls" in order to feel better about the Energy Crisis that's coming. I will not be wrong on jet fuel and Oil because that is just 4th grade math. We will find out very quickly in May/June timeframe.

I was wrong about Capt Gumm being an asset to the pilot group and that was a poor choice of word on my part. The real asset to the pilot group is DALPA which has been nothing short of outstanding over the years. I'm not saying Capt Gumm is solely at fault for the company's operational meltdown as there seems to be some type of external pressure on Flight Ops to cut cost, especially during the Centennial year, but my asset and serving the pilot group claim was wrong. It's been DALPA, not Capt. Gumm.

Just like folks are lasered focused WTI/Brent futures instead of looking at the big picture critical shortages of diesel and jet fuel, folks these days are lasered on finding every instance someone is wrong. One can have a laser focus on the majority of the time and elite baseball hitter is unsuccessful and completely miss the big picture.
The digging was done to demonstrate that you really don't actually know what you're talking about. You've been confidently incorrect enough times. You don't have any insider knowledge, no magic 8 ball, and no secret "4th grade math" skills.

You're not smarter than anyone else on here. Just the average line pilot know-it-all.

Nobody is denying that what's going on in the middle east is bad for the global economy. But the world will continue to turn at it's nominal rate. Yet you remain laser focused on predicting the next crisis.

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Old 04-26-2026 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GutterGuard
The digging was done to demonstrate that you really don't actually know what you're talking about. You've been confidently incorrect enough times. You don't have any insider knowledge, no magic 8 ball, and no secret "4th grade math" skills.

You're not smarter than anyone else on here. Just the average line pilot know-it-all.

Nobody is denying that what's going on in the middle east is bad for the global economy. But the world will continue to turn at it's nominal rate. Yet you remain laser focused on predicting the next crisis.
If this is the best you can come up after digging to try to disprove my thesis then the struggle is real. I understand the need to cope with the gravity of the crisis that is coming. It will be entertaining to revisit your post in a month or two
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Old 04-26-2026 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
Somebody did a lot of digging just to try find a track record of "wrong calls" in order to feel better about the Energy Crisis that's coming. I will not be wrong in jet fuel and Oil because that is just 4th grade math.

There is not enough information state that Capt Gumm is solely at fault for what is happening to the pilot group. The current operational mess is a melting pot of issues which IMHO, stem from Centennial year related cost savings initiatives combined with 23M7/batch size issues.

Somebody did a lot of digging just to try find a track record of "wrong calls" in order to feel better about the Energy Crisis that's coming. I will not be wrong on jet fuel and Oil because that is just 4th grade math. We will find out very quickly in May/June timeframe.

I was wrong about Capt Gumm being an asset to the pilot group and that was a poor choice of word on my part. The real asset to the pilot group is DALPA which has been nothing short of outstanding over the years. I'm not saying Capt Gumm is solely at fault for the company's operational meltdown as there seems to be some type of external pressure on Flight Ops to cut cost, especially during the Centennial year, but my asset and serving the pilot group claim was wrong. It's been DALPA, not Capt. Gumm.

Just like folks are lasered focused WTI/Brent futures instead of looking at the big picture critical shortages of diesel and jet fuel, folks these days are lasered on finding every instance someone is wrong. One can have a laser focus on the majority of the time and elite baseball hitter is unsuccessful and completely miss the big picture.
is this what a standup guy sounds like when he admits when he’s wrong?
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Old 04-26-2026 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip7
If this is the best you can come up after digging to try to disprove my thesis then the struggle is real. I understand the need to cope with the gravity of the crisis that is coming. It will be entertaining to revisit your post in a month or two
I'm not even the one who did the digging. I didn't revive this thread or your absolutely absurd and misguided opinions. But I do find entertainment value in it.
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