New FA bases
11-08-2023 | 03:03 PM
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How many pilots did you think were going to get out of a commute? And how many front- and back end deadheads were going to disappear off bid pack and ad hoc rotations? VBs would reduce credit (their actual purpose in life), leaving fewer good deals for commuters who didn’t live in MIA or DFW.
I keep hearing “well we should have tried it”…but to what end? Do we think the company’s use of VBs on their first (delayed) attempt would indicate how they would use it in any subsequent month?
VBs could have been magical for anyone in the right category at the right time who bid for and was awarded the assignment for the one or more months it worked out.
I keep hearing “well we should have tried it”…but to what end? Do we think the company’s use of VBs on their first (delayed) attempt would indicate how they would use it in any subsequent month?
VBs could have been magical for anyone in the right category at the right time who bid for and was awarded the assignment for the one or more months it worked out.
11-10-2023 | 07:17 AM
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My point was, it would not have all bad for everyone. Some guys would have won big, some may have lost a little. Those that thought they might lose something made enough noise, or were in the right position, to make sure we never find out. What if it had worked well and they had opened VBs in DCA, AUS, DFW, MCO, FLL/MIA…That’s potentially a large group of pilots that would have benefited greatly. We’ll never know.
I wonder if we might be able to frame how VBs could be written into C26 (or a non-section-6 MOU like last time) (I know, long time from now) to prevent a repeat of history.
Do you think it is possible to have VBs that this pilot group would approve/desire? We, as a 2023 pilot group look very different than we did in 2016/17/18 when MOU 16-03, the extension and subsequent takedown occured.
11-10-2023 | 04:00 PM
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I think we can all agree that, for better or worse, VBs ala MOU 16-03 are dead and buried.
I wonder if we might be able to frame how VBs could be written into C26 (or a non-section-6 MOU like last time) (I know, long time from now) to prevent a repeat of history.
Do you think it is possible to have VBs that this pilot group would approve/desire? We, as a 2023 pilot group look very different than we did in 2016/17/18 when MOU 16-03, the extension and subsequent takedown occured.
I wonder if we might be able to frame how VBs could be written into C26 (or a non-section-6 MOU like last time) (I know, long time from now) to prevent a repeat of history.
Do you think it is possible to have VBs that this pilot group would approve/desire? We, as a 2023 pilot group look very different than we did in 2016/17/18 when MOU 16-03, the extension and subsequent takedown occured.
11-12-2023 | 04:32 AM
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I think we can all agree that, for better or worse, VBs ala MOU 16-03 are dead and buried.
I wonder if we might be able to frame how VBs could be written into C26 (or a non-section-6 MOU like last time) (I know, long time from now) to prevent a repeat of history.
Do you think it is possible to have VBs that this pilot group would approve/desire? We, as a 2023 pilot group look very different than we did in 2016/17/18 when MOU 16-03, the extension and subsequent takedown occured.
I wonder if we might be able to frame how VBs could be written into C26 (or a non-section-6 MOU like last time) (I know, long time from now) to prevent a repeat of history.
Do you think it is possible to have VBs that this pilot group would approve/desire? We, as a 2023 pilot group look very different than we did in 2016/17/18 when MOU 16-03, the extension and subsequent takedown occured.
I for one, am in full support of VB and would like to see some change and growth in DL presence.
11-12-2023 | 07:03 AM
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From: 73N A
% Commuters
NYC - 75%
DTW - 60%
ATL - 51%
SEA - 51%
LAX - 44%
SLC - 36%
MSP - 22%
System wide - 53%
This is from the RCC update in March 2022.
11-12-2023 | 08:45 AM
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Im wondering how these new FA bases will affect the commute from them. Will it make it better because of the locals that live there no longer commuting? Or will some FAs decide they want to commute to these locations and actually make it worse??
11-12-2023 | 09:13 AM
#79
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I don’t think the FA satellite bases are at all set up for commuters. They are solely designed for locals so in theory more FA jumpseats should be open.
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