Ace update?
03-13-2024, 02:43 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Did the app actually provide the value you received? Or was it the knowledgeable scheduling volunteer that was on the receiving end of the ticket?
Considering the thread thrashing over one-time vehicle purchases, it’s not a small amount of cash being spent on a recurring subscription basis.
Simply sharing what I came across last fall. I had every intention to submit a resolution to study the value of this…but I got lazy and didn’t.
Maybe someone else cares enough to shine some sunlight on it.
Considering the thread thrashing over one-time vehicle purchases, it’s not a small amount of cash being spent on a recurring subscription basis.
Simply sharing what I came across last fall. I had every intention to submit a resolution to study the value of this…but I got lazy and didn’t.
Maybe someone else cares enough to shine some sunlight on it.
03-13-2024, 02:49 PM
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Sounds like ALPA election season is coming up, and some of the reps want to be seen as good stewards of everyone's money. Got to balance out those pay raises they gave themselves and cars they bought. They still pay for alcohol at all their meetings, or just the PUB events?
03-13-2024, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
ACE recovers $20 million a year for the pilot group.
Could a less expensive option recover the same amount more efficiently?
I don't know what's going on or where it leads. But it's faulty logic to assert that recovering money is soley due to ACE and we'd recover nothing without it.
03-13-2024, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
How much would the DALPA scheduling folks have recovered without ACE?
Could a less expensive option recover the same amount more efficiently?
I don't know what's going on or where it leads. But it's faulty logic to assert that recovering money is soley due to ACE and we'd recover nothing without it.
Could a less expensive option recover the same amount more efficiently?
I don't know what's going on or where it leads. But it's faulty logic to assert that recovering money is soley due to ACE and we'd recover nothing without it.
ACE doesn’t quite pay for itself, but its value is massive. I’ve made well over $10k from it. Probably closer to $20k. There are a lot of capabilities which are to be fully realized in the relatively near term. Years of prep work are about to be flushed if the MEC chair has his way.
Originally Posted by ancman
A number that was significantly reduced by the batch size giveaway.
03-13-2024, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Not in the big picture. The vast, vast majority of ACE dollars weren’t RCOS violations.
With direct API access on the way, near 100% enforcement would have made that extremely costly to the company. DALPA failed to extract that for a quid of equal value.
03-13-2024, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Talk to SK, the (recent) scheduling committee chair. Or KS, the chair before him. The process was minuscule compared to where they have built it now.
ACE doesn’t quite pay for itself, but its value is massive. I’ve made well over $10k from it. Probably closer to $20k. There are a lot of capabilities which are to be fully realized in the relatively near term. Years of prep work are about to be flushed if the MEC chair has his way.
Not in the big picture. The vast, vast majority of ACE dollars weren’t RCOS violations.
ACE doesn’t quite pay for itself, but its value is massive. I’ve made well over $10k from it. Probably closer to $20k. There are a lot of capabilities which are to be fully realized in the relatively near term. Years of prep work are about to be flushed if the MEC chair has his way.
Not in the big picture. The vast, vast majority of ACE dollars weren’t RCOS violations.
Thank the DALPA scheduling experts answering the tickets. Not the app that is overcharging us for functionality a GA Tech intern could write over a long weekend.
03-13-2024, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
You haven’t made any money from ACE. It’s a ticketing queue system that we pay almost $1.5M/year for.
Thank the DALPA scheduling experts answering the tickets. Not the app that is overcharging us for functionality a GA Tech intern could write over a long weekend.
Thank the DALPA scheduling experts answering the tickets. Not the app that is overcharging us for functionality a GA Tech intern could write over a long weekend.
ACE has been and continues to be fully automated, able to ID every violation in which it’s programmed. API data automates the *information* from DBMS to ACE, as currently it’s manually loaded into ACE in large batch files every 28 days. Real-time information has only been a ‘thing’ since ratifying C19, which will eventually come to fruition once API access is complete.
Your comments above are inaccurate and I encourage you to reach out to the people who built and programmed ACE over the past several years if you have questions or seek clarification regarding its abilities.
Your comments above are inaccurate and I encourage you to reach out to the people who built and programmed ACE over the past several years if you have questions or seek clarification regarding its abilities.
03-13-2024, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
I'll let SK himself speak to this, quoted from BookFace this evening to someone making a similar claim.
Prior to Flight Ops recently stepping up with Crew Assist functionality the queue was many months, sometimes approaching a year - no way was there automation grinding through the myriad reports. I’m not calling SK into question here (he’s done a LOT of good for the pilot group) but something isn’t jiving.
I would be genuinely interested in following up and seeing how this is working.
PM if you don’t want to splash specifics/names here.
03-13-2024, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
ACE recovers $20 million a year for the pilot group.
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