Falcon20

Its not that as I'm sure you are aware. Load control will manually remove the jump seat weight to allow a paying passenger to board if it isn't occupied. I had the jump seat and they paid people to get off the jet but I was protected.

m3113n1a1

No they'll just bump a paying pax (or non rev) for a Delta jumpseater if necessary. Do other airlines have a different policy? I've been kicked off SWA for weight restrictions before and the pilots didn't even try to do anything about it. However I once had US airways pilots make some phone calls to their dispatcher and load planning people and get me on their jumpseat which I was much appreciative for, but I think they just adjusted some numbers (as most Delta guys would also try to do) because they definitely didn't kick off any revenue pax for me!

Go Cards go

They don’t manually remove the jumpseat weight anymore. The jumpseat weight is no longer part of the basic operating weight of the aircraft as it used to be. They removed it when the FAA increased pax weight a couple of years back. If a Delta JSer is listed, load control accounts for the weight.

9easy

I'm curious what alrline would allow a captain to bump paying pax or online nonrevs, while allowing off-line jumpseaters onto a weight restricted flight?

sailingfun

Just so I understand, you will have your gate agent come onboard to pull a revenue passenger to board a offline jumpseater. Is that correct?

tennisguru

Why stop there? We should put all nonrevs and jumpseaters on board on every flight no matter how many revenue pax are displaced...

FangsF15

Interesting 4 post history. You create an eponymous account just to sarcastically take a jab at the recent super-cringe video, while pretending to be a Delta pilot. You then comment in Frontier's forums (which is likely where you really work), and then with absolutely staggering self-righteous entitlement, demand a privlege. Over which Delta pilots have zero control given the circumstances.

I've missed a commute before too. I get it, it sucks. But emotional "hot take" posts accounts rarely age well for several reasons, not the least of which is when you are demonstrably wrong. As already pointed out, there are zero airlines who will bump a paying passenger for you to ride to work, including yours (wherever you work), regardless of whether it's for weight or performance. The fact that our company grants our own the privlege of not getting bumped is irrelevant to you (since you obviously don't work here). Anonymity really strengthens your argument too, btw. </S>

I'll bet when you sleep on this, and calm down a little, you will (hopefully) feel a little embarassed. But at least you used a burner account, so no harm done.

hvydvr

There are some decaffeinated brands that are just as good as the real thing. It will prevent you from coming off like a jackass when you don’t know what is going on….

Whoopsmybad

Someone switch his beer with odules, please.

notEnuf

The real isssue is the historic value of BOW. It used to include all flight crew seats with occupants. Delta and others I'm sure have systematically taken away weight where they could legally do so in the name of profitability. This is why we no longer have a 1000 pound performance pad and WDRs with 0 tailwinds. My point is only that as these new "limits" are set, they are trimming pilots' acess to benefits (off line JS) and encroach on DAL employed pilots' benefits on other airlines, and maybe even make our own less secure.