Delta Career Outlook?
09-30-2024 | 07:58 AM
#111
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09-30-2024 | 07:58 AM
#112
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From: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Have you applied to either one yet? Every month you delay is another 100 pilots in front of you on the list.
Right now you don't have a decision to make, once you've got a CJO, then you'll have to decide what looks best for your personal situation but nobody's got a crystal ball that'll tell you what's going to happen over the next 35 years. Once you've applied, interviewed and got a class date, then you'll have to decide.
Right now you don't have a decision to make, once you've got a CJO, then you'll have to decide what looks best for your personal situation but nobody's got a crystal ball that'll tell you what's going to happen over the next 35 years. Once you've applied, interviewed and got a class date, then you'll have to decide.
09-30-2024 | 08:08 AM
#113
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From: B737 Left Seat
I’m finishing my tenth year at WN this winter. According to myseniority.com:
Captains retiring that are senior to you:
within 12 months - 167
within 2 years - 426
within 3 years - 724
within 5 years - 1382
within 10 years - 3070
within 15 years - 4617
This is the current snapshot/ outlook. I retire in 2040 at 7% and it took me 8.5 years to upgrade.
Historically, the majors always hired until they furloughed. No company is immune. I feel the industry is going towards a more normal hiring trend until the Boeing issue is resolved; maybe it will pick up again then.
All I can say is do your research with factual information, not feelings. If you chase the greener grass to start at the bottom again it’s still a gamble.
Captains retiring that are senior to you:
within 12 months - 167
within 2 years - 426
within 3 years - 724
within 5 years - 1382
within 10 years - 3070
within 15 years - 4617
This is the current snapshot/ outlook. I retire in 2040 at 7% and it took me 8.5 years to upgrade.
Historically, the majors always hired until they furloughed. No company is immune. I feel the industry is going towards a more normal hiring trend until the Boeing issue is resolved; maybe it will pick up again then.
All I can say is do your research with factual information, not feelings. If you chase the greener grass to start at the bottom again it’s still a gamble.
09-30-2024 | 08:22 AM
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The main difference between then and now is the largest four carriers have achieved “too big to fail” status with something like 80% of domestic seats on those four carriers.
Back then the market was much more diversified between 10+ airlines, and the government at the state and federal level could let some go out of business without a huge disruption. Even back then some state governments had decided that their local airlines were too important to allow them to fail. As an example Minnesota bailing out NWA.
Back then the market was much more diversified between 10+ airlines, and the government at the state and federal level could let some go out of business without a huge disruption. Even back then some state governments had decided that their local airlines were too important to allow them to fail. As an example Minnesota bailing out NWA.
09-30-2024 | 08:56 AM
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From: B747 FO
Sure, and Northwest, Continental, etc......that's why I said AS safe as the other two in terms of job stability. Yes we can all shut down if there's a zombie attack and the big F will always be there. AS safe, not safer, not just safe either.
09-30-2024 | 09:47 AM
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You and VSOP are correct but I was just stirring the pot a bit 😂. It would take a catastrophe of biblical proportions to bring Delta down or AA and United.
09-30-2024 | 10:32 AM
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I’m finishing my tenth year at WN this winter. According to myseniority.com:
Captains retiring that are senior to you:
within 12 months - 167
within 2 years - 426
within 3 years - 724
within 5 years - 1382
within 10 years - 3070
within 15 years - 4617
This is the current snapshot/ outlook. I retire in 2040 at 7% and it took me 8.5 years to upgrade.
Historically, the majors always hired until they furloughed. No company is immune. I feel the industry is going towards a more normal hiring trend until the Boeing issue is resolved; maybe it will pick up again then.
All I can say is do your research with factual information, not feelings. If you chase the greener grass to start at the bottom again it’s still a gamble.
Captains retiring that are senior to you:
within 12 months - 167
within 2 years - 426
within 3 years - 724
within 5 years - 1382
within 10 years - 3070
within 15 years - 4617
This is the current snapshot/ outlook. I retire in 2040 at 7% and it took me 8.5 years to upgrade.
Historically, the majors always hired until they furloughed. No company is immune. I feel the industry is going towards a more normal hiring trend until the Boeing issue is resolved; maybe it will pick up again then.
All I can say is do your research with factual information, not feelings. If you chase the greener grass to start at the bottom again it’s still a gamble.
10-03-2024 | 05:45 PM
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Unless you plan to live in SFO or EWR UA WB flying quickly deteriorates. IAH is treated lil’ too poorly by UA unfortunately. When ppl say to go UA for WB flying remember to attach EWR/SFO at the end.
On flip side, ATL is HQ, lotta career opportunity, huge spread of equipment & network. So if you ain’t living in SFO or EWR, you’re gonna commute & UA has technically the poorest commuting policies, I’d say go fly WB with Delta.
10-04-2024 | 04:05 AM
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From: A320 FO
Very difficult question to answer. United says they are going to double the size of the airline. IF that happens seniority movement there will still be faster than the other Big 4.
10-04-2024 | 05:34 AM
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If it’s WB flying you’re after and your only interest is IAH, go DL. IAH WB flying is horrid & extremely minimal. 787 Bid pack is 4 destinations (South America, Australia, Japan, & EWR) and runs extremely senior (777&756 flying equally as poor, majority SA).
Unless you plan to live in SFO or EWR UA WB flying quickly deteriorates. IAH is treated lil’ too poorly by UA unfortunately. When ppl say to go UA for WB flying remember to attach EWR/SFO at the end.
On flip side, ATL is HQ, lotta career opportunity, huge spread of equipment & network. So if you ain’t living in SFO or EWR, you’re gonna commute & UA has technically the poorest commuting policies, I’d say go fly WB with Delta.
Unless you plan to live in SFO or EWR UA WB flying quickly deteriorates. IAH is treated lil’ too poorly by UA unfortunately. When ppl say to go UA for WB flying remember to attach EWR/SFO at the end.
On flip side, ATL is HQ, lotta career opportunity, huge spread of equipment & network. So if you ain’t living in SFO or EWR, you’re gonna commute & UA has technically the poorest commuting policies, I’d say go fly WB with Delta.
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