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Old 08-26-2025 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Khantahr
I don't really see the problem with FO ACPs dealing with captains. The only difference between the two is luck of hire date. If it were a 2022 hire captain doing the managing instead of a 2004 hire FO, is that better?
I have a huge problem with it because of their hire date and position, it is all about their ambition. That manifests in many ways and that's usually detrimental to the line pilot. I don't care if they came here to be a manager rather than a pilot but they have to stand out and be noticed in order to climb the rungs.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal
This is purely an observation on APC. but it seems every other post of his is some sort of “woe is me, the company is at fault, etc”.

Not critiquing, just an observation. If we can see a trend, the CPO 1000% sees it. He's had a shockingly large number of crazy things happen to him here that seem to always be the companies fault.
How is a 2x windshear go around company's fault? It's weather, it happens, and it's why we train for it.

Now some things, like denying my wife's medication that's in the formulary, after we won on an appeal, just because they can? That I do fully blame our company for.
Making me wait a month for surgical approval because my shoulder isn't broken bad enough for some non MDs opinion? Yep. That's either what the company told them to do, or acceptable behavior from a company selected contractor.

Me complaining about pay being wrong? Yeah. That's the company.

Me not knowing that an ACP is over me in the food chain? My fault.
I was not aware of that being the case, even though the company publication where it is so delineated is accessible to me. And a lot of others are not aware of it either, including guys who have been here 20+ years. That's why I tell people. So many people are not aware of that.

I post the things that happen so that others can learn. Do I do everything right? Hell no. there is a lot of stuff that I could have done better, or handled better either at the time or afterwards. I'm not perfect. And I screw things up. I post what happened so others may learn what happened, how to avoid it or how to handle it better if unavoidable.


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Old 08-26-2025 | 09:05 AM
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I post the things that happen so that others can learn. Do I do everything right? Hell no. there is a lot of stuff that I could have done better, or handled better either at the time or afterwards. I'm not perfect. And I screw things up. I post what happened so others may learn what happened, how to avoid it or how to handle it better if unavoidable.
Harrumph!! That’s what is valuable about this place. Keep it up. Always better to lean from someone else’s learning.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CX500T
Me not knowing that an ACP is over me in the food chain? My fault.
I was not aware of that being the case, even though the company publication where it is so delineated is accessible to me. And a lot of others are not aware of it either, including guys who have been here 20+ years. That's why I tell people. So many people are not aware of that.
What happened with this? Did you tell them that they're not the boss of you and to F off?
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Old 08-26-2025 | 09:28 AM
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Honestly it's not even a question that would pop into my mind. A chief pilot or assistant chief pilot is my boss. Whether they're an FO or a captain is irrelevant.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
No, it is not, but there are things captains do that usually only other captains understand and can relate too.
if there was ever a tool of the day thread for delta hubris……this is the winner. Absolutely ridiculous. Ive been a captain here a long time and this is just complete BS
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Old 08-26-2025 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I've never been disciplined but every interaction I've had with the CPO was negative. From ACPs fishing around a "not GFB call" but "checking in," to being unavailable due to ATL daily conference call, (WTF) to being an inconvenience when I got off a trip for my father's heart attack, to dealing with state sick for a child's injury, to getting a new badge because it doesn't work in ATL, to parking issues etc. It's a hassle to go into the office and most people have learned to avoid it as much as possible.
It's absolutely madness that there are 15 people in their office and for an hour or more a day, they are locked in a conference call and can't help out pilots. "I can put you on the list for a call back if you want"
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Old 08-26-2025 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Khantahr
Honestly it's not even a question that would pop into my mind. A chief pilot or assistant chief pilot is my boss. Whether they're an FO or a captain is irrelevant.
My thought too. Surprised to read that is actually a question?
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Old 08-26-2025 | 09:57 AM
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So how about that turbulence?!?!
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Old 08-26-2025 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF
So how about that turbulence?!?!
They spoke briefly about it in one of the 25 monthly newsletters on your tablet
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