Delta 56 Severe Turbulence
08-27-2025 | 05:03 AM
#491
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And this is why I tell people that ACPs are over the #1 line guy or LCA at Delta. Full stop..
I mistakenly thought ACPs were assistants more for the admin side and didnt have enforcement/ discipline authority. I was wrong.
Learn from my mistake. It's not a "I want to talk to your boss" thing. They are your boss. Even if they are younger than your grandkids and were hired last month.
I mistakenly thought ACPs were assistants more for the admin side and didnt have enforcement/ discipline authority. I was wrong.
Learn from my mistake. It's not a "I want to talk to your boss" thing. They are your boss. Even if they are younger than your grandkids and were hired last month.
Me: "Hey man sorry, it was my cat's sweet 16, that was my bad. Won't happen again"
Done. If I'm in trouble for something and I'm about to get a slap of the wrist from the Lieutenant (Ensign?), why would I want the Colonel(Captain?) involved
08-27-2025 | 05:18 AM
#492
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Well, to stay somewhat on topic without losing the sarcasm, one thing real CAPTAINS with 20+ years of seniority seem to be really good at is flying through severe turbulence. To the point that the company had to put out a Flight Safety Bulletin about it. All 4 examples they used were A330 and A350 flights, one including a hail encounter. And that was just over the 3 months of summer. I hope the ASAP debriefers they spoke to had at least 20 years with the company otherwise there was no way they could understand the superior decision making required to fly through weather like that.
08-27-2025 | 05:56 AM
#493
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same, I just assumed ACPs were FOs for the same reason LVPs are FOs, DL is getting away with paying an FO to do something instead of a CA. But in that same regard, I would not treat an LVP giving me a checkout any differently than an LCP.
Assuming the story’s went as you said CXT, the only thing I have questions about is why a company repressive would push a pilot to a FAR violation (exceeding block limit). did they not know better? Or were they knowingly pushing pilots to violate FARs to “get the mission done”. TBH neither are acceptable. But I also have to say I’ve never had an interaction like you describe.
Assuming the story’s went as you said CXT, the only thing I have questions about is why a company repressive would push a pilot to a FAR violation (exceeding block limit). did they not know better? Or were they knowingly pushing pilots to violate FARs to “get the mission done”. TBH neither are acceptable. But I also have to say I’ve never had an interaction like you describe.
08-27-2025 | 06:23 AM
#494
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08-27-2025 | 06:50 AM
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Sometimes they don't even know the FOM, let alone the FARs. My probationary meetings took place during jacket season. So I was down in the office with one of them, and at the end he was like "Oh, just BTW I see you don't have your brass on your shirt, just make sure you're wearing that properly," Me, with literally less than 6 months on property: "Actually, the FOM says that name tags and wings are optional on the shirt if the jacket is worn." CP: "huh, I didnt' know that, I guess I'll have to look that up."
08-27-2025 | 06:50 AM
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08-27-2025 | 06:56 AM
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08-27-2025 | 07:43 AM
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For contrast, compare that to the number hired in 2022 (the first full year of hiring post-Covid) who were under 30 : 485. Of those, 24 pilots were hired under the age of 25. Those are the lottery winners - but out of ~2400 hired that year, 24 ain't that many.
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