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Old 08-28-2025 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

I'm not going discuss issues with someone half my age and barely a 1/32 of my experience here at this air line. It's justifiable and I've done this on 2 occasions.
Well, I guess we found the Servant Leader PA guy...
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Old 09-09-2025 | 02:24 PM
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NTSB preliminary report shows their ground track going right through (above?) the strongest return in the storm (60+ dBZ).
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Old 09-09-2025 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Well, I guess we found the Servant Leader PA guy...

LoL far far from it. I haven't worn the hat in about 6 years now.

Nice try though.
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Old 09-09-2025 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dmhpilot
NTSB preliminary report shows their ground track going right through (above?) the strongest return in the storm (60+ dBZ).
Yes, much discussion. They Leroy Jenkins'd right thru that thing.
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Old 09-09-2025 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Yes, much discussion. They Leroy Jenkins'd right thru that thing.
But did they hold a half-full water bottle up to the horizon to see if they would clear the clouds? >.<
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Old 09-09-2025 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by dmhpilot
But did they hold a half-full water bottle up to the horizon to see if they would clear the clouds? >.<
What?? That **** works just fine. Not as good as my HUD mind you, but that’s a moo point.
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Old 09-09-2025 | 03:25 PM
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What?? That **** works just fine. Not as good as my HUD mind you, but that’s a moo point.
It works great! I’m not knocking it. Maybe they should have? Ok that last question was silliness.
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Old 09-09-2025 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dmhpilot
NTSB preliminary report shows their ground track going right through (above?) the strongest return in the storm (60+ dBZ).
According to a memo, they were "tricked" by ATC saying the rides were reported smooth through there.
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Old 09-10-2025 | 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Yes, much discussion. They Leroy Jenkins'd right thru that thing.
Did they go through it or did they go over it? Friend at DTN Weather said they ran it through their aviation models and it was a freakishly fast development. What might have looked acceptable could quickly become "a bit more" than expected.
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Old 09-10-2025 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Did they go through it or did they go over it? Friend at DTN Weather said they ran it through their aviation models and it was a freakishly fast development. What might have looked acceptable could quickly become "a bit more" than expected.
All the reason to avoid trying to overfly large cells, and definitely not if they're producing red returns. I used to be pretty nonchalant about doing it at FL450 in corporate jets but in the 30s you can get swallowed pretty quickly. I learned that lesson coming back from Dakar one night after step climbing over the Atlantic to get some more margin over some cells that were topping off in the low thirties. Until suddenly the lighting flashes that were below us started being above us. Thank goodness for CPDLC that allowed Santa Maria to approve our deviation within seconds otherwise it would have been the first and only time in my career invoking the oceanic weather contingency procedures.
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