Delta 56 Severe Turbulence
08-10-2025 | 09:38 AM
#391
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This year from the right seat I had to physically step on the brakes to stop an age > 60'er from a runway incursion, while a plane was taking off said runway. And this was after verbalizing taxi instructions. He was so used to landing on another runway that his mind was on autopilot to get to the gate. That would've been bad, real bad... worse than an FO saying abort. Bigger threat, IMO. It goes both ways, fresh eyes in the cockpit aren't always a bad thing.
Good dude too. It can happen to anyone.
Good dude too. It can happen to anyone.
08-10-2025 | 10:37 AM
#392
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//break, break//
I don’t get the angst about this issue. Any FO at DL has thousands of hours of flight time, and the vast majority have CFI’d and/or been captains before (including military). If a FO ‘forgets’ and blurts the word abort, I’m almost certainly aborting and discussing later, especially < 80 kts
But company policy is company policy.
08-10-2025 | 12:48 PM
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Quite a lot? Not so sure about that.
//break, break//
I don’t get the angst about this issue. Any FO at DL has thousands of hours of flight time, and the vast majority have CFI’d and/or been captains before (including military). If a FO ‘forgets’ and blurts the word abort, I’m almost certainly aborting and discussing later, especially < 80 kts
But company policy is company policy.
//break, break//
I don’t get the angst about this issue. Any FO at DL has thousands of hours of flight time, and the vast majority have CFI’d and/or been captains before (including military). If a FO ‘forgets’ and blurts the word abort, I’m almost certainly aborting and discussing later, especially < 80 kts
But company policy is company policy.
08-10-2025 | 01:06 PM
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Quite a lot? Not so sure about that.
//break, break//
I don’t get the angst about this issue. Any FO at DL has thousands of hours of flight time, and the vast majority have CFI’d and/or been captains before (including military). If a FO ‘forgets’ and blurts the word abort, I’m almost certainly aborting and discussing later, especially < 80 kts
But company policy is company policy.
//break, break//
I don’t get the angst about this issue. Any FO at DL has thousands of hours of flight time, and the vast majority have CFI’d and/or been captains before (including military). If a FO ‘forgets’ and blurts the word abort, I’m almost certainly aborting and discussing later, especially < 80 kts
But company policy is company policy.
08-10-2025 | 01:13 PM
#396
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From: NYC 7ERA
(115 kt reject on a 11,000 ft runway)
With RTO brakes only and being deliberate on reverse still stopped with 3000+ remaining.
08-10-2025 | 01:20 PM
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Upgrading didn't change my perspective since I've been a Captain/Aircraft Commander before. It did show me how self-stroking DL captain culture is. I've never seen such contempt for SIC's/FO's anywhere else I've flown. Everything here is much more PIC centered, almost like the implication permeating everything is that FO's are these mouth breathing cavemen that are only good for slinging gear, flaps and being ballast.
08-10-2025 | 01:23 PM
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08-10-2025 | 01:54 PM
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I've been a 121 captain but only with FOs who have never been in a jet before and without hardly any support from the 24 year old Dispatchers. But thanks for unsolicited advice
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