Contract 2026
10-23-2025 | 12:41 PM
#581
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The current problem is the whole seniority list is being harmed while those top 3 in each category are gobbling up M7 "harmed pilot" pay. Everyone in the middle is get passed on GS they should've had while they get awarded as IAs to the bottom. That's the true abrogation of seniority.
So I would argue if we really care about "harmed pilots" getting paid, we need to look at how the current system pays. Because it's more than just that senior pilot getting skipped for a WS.
So I would argue if we really care about "harmed pilots" getting paid, we need to look at how the current system pays. Because it's more than just that senior pilot getting skipped for a WS.
10-23-2025 | 03:04 PM
#582
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I agree there are major issues. I've said in multiple posts that the company needs to be required to automate the TC process almost entirely. That alone should greatly cut down on all these last minute M7 IA's going out. And there will still always be stuff that pops up last minute, hence a new slip is needed that is time-limited, in seniority order, and no auto accept/ack.
10-23-2025 | 03:34 PM
#583
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I agree there are major issues. I've said in multiple posts that the company needs to be required to automate the TC process almost entirely. That alone should greatly cut down on all these last minute M7 IA's going out. And there will still always be stuff that pops up last minute, hence a new slip is needed that is time-limited, in seniority order, and no auto accept/ack.
10-23-2025 | 04:52 PM
#584
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
Hospice, prolonged deaths, cleaning up the financial situation (even if it's just shifting auto pay, SS benefits, etc.) takes time.
Pilots are often the progeny with the assets to deal with this (because the siblings can't).
Current contract gives us something like 4 days of bereavement leave.
There has to be a better way.
One of the "generational divides" Contract 2026 has. Younger pilots have younger parents. Older pilots see this coming in a few years (or tomorrow) and would prefer some defined benefit options, not just calling the CPO and hoping they get the nice guy.
10-23-2025 | 05:19 PM
#585
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The only thing in the Contract Survey I went off on.
Hospice, prolonged deaths, cleaning up the financial situation (even if it's just shifting auto pay, SS benefits, etc.) takes time.
Pilots are often the progeny with the assets to deal with this (because the siblings can't).
Current contract gives us something like 4 days of bereavement leave.
There has to be a better way.
One of the "generational divides" Contract 2026 has. Younger pilots have younger parents. Older pilots see this coming in a few years (or tomorrow) and would prefer some defined benefit options, not just calling the CPO and hoping they get the nice guy.
Hospice, prolonged deaths, cleaning up the financial situation (even if it's just shifting auto pay, SS benefits, etc.) takes time.
Pilots are often the progeny with the assets to deal with this (because the siblings can't).
Current contract gives us something like 4 days of bereavement leave.
There has to be a better way.
One of the "generational divides" Contract 2026 has. Younger pilots have younger parents. Older pilots see this coming in a few years (or tomorrow) and would prefer some defined benefit options, not just calling the CPO and hoping they get the nice guy.
10-23-2025 | 05:20 PM
#586
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The only thing in the Contract Survey I went off on.
Hospice, prolonged deaths, cleaning up the financial situation (even if it's just shifting auto pay, SS benefits, etc.) takes time.
Pilots are often the progeny with the assets to deal with this (because the siblings can't).
Current contract gives us something like 4 days of bereavement leave.
There has to be a better way.
One of the "generational divides" Contract 2026 has. Younger pilots have younger parents. Older pilots see this coming in a few years (or tomorrow) and would prefer some defined benefit options, not just calling the CPO and hoping they get the nice guy.
Hospice, prolonged deaths, cleaning up the financial situation (even if it's just shifting auto pay, SS benefits, etc.) takes time.
Pilots are often the progeny with the assets to deal with this (because the siblings can't).
Current contract gives us something like 4 days of bereavement leave.
There has to be a better way.
One of the "generational divides" Contract 2026 has. Younger pilots have younger parents. Older pilots see this coming in a few years (or tomorrow) and would prefer some defined benefit options, not just calling the CPO and hoping they get the nice guy.
Oh, which reminds me, if you want to non rev while sick you have to beg the CPO to let you which is ridiculous. Also, I don't think we can non-rev on LTD. Other airlines can.
10-23-2025 | 05:20 PM
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The only thing in the Contract Survey I went off on.
Hospice, prolonged deaths, cleaning up the financial situation (even if it's just shifting auto pay, SS benefits, etc.) takes time.
Pilots are often the progeny with the assets to deal with this (because the siblings can't).
Current contract gives us something like 4 days of bereavement leave.
There has to be a better way.
One of the "generational divides" Contract 2026 has. Younger pilots have younger parents. Older pilots see this coming in a few years (or tomorrow) and would prefer some defined benefit options, not just calling the CPO and hoping they get the nice guy.
Hospice, prolonged deaths, cleaning up the financial situation (even if it's just shifting auto pay, SS benefits, etc.) takes time.
Pilots are often the progeny with the assets to deal with this (because the siblings can't).
Current contract gives us something like 4 days of bereavement leave.
There has to be a better way.
One of the "generational divides" Contract 2026 has. Younger pilots have younger parents. Older pilots see this coming in a few years (or tomorrow) and would prefer some defined benefit options, not just calling the CPO and hoping they get the nice guy.
10-23-2025 | 06:06 PM
#589
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
Obviously. By hook or by crook. Beg, borrow or steal.
I'd prefer this entirely predictable need to be contractually covered, however.
Pilots who regularly use "sick leave" as vacation time, call in "fatigued" for the penalty lap which we all hate, or won't extend 3 minutes into an extended duty day (this one sucks, I know, because it's 2 hours or nothing) don't help our case.
Last edited by DeltaboundRedux; 10-23-2025 at 06:40 PM.
10-23-2025 | 07:37 PM
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Obviously. By hook or by crook. Beg, borrow or steal.
I'd prefer this entirely predictable need to be contractually covered, however.
Pilots who regularly use "sick leave" as vacation time, call in "fatigued" for the penalty lap which we all hate, or won't extend 3 minutes into an extended duty day (this one sucks, I know, because it's 2 hours or nothing) don't help our case.
I'd prefer this entirely predictable need to be contractually covered, however.
Pilots who regularly use "sick leave" as vacation time, call in "fatigued" for the penalty lap which we all hate, or won't extend 3 minutes into an extended duty day (this one sucks, I know, because it's 2 hours or nothing) don't help our case.
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