Given your accuracy in predicting parking of airplanes and furloughs by now, I'll take the under

 

there’s no way we sign under the current administration. we won’t have a credible threat of labor action to push things along

 

How long have you been here? Our union is pretty efficient when it comes to contracts. The only one dragged out so far was the covid one. We have almost always gotten retro in the past.

 

Sorry I phrased that incorrectly... this all started with post #594....it was a 2 person crew, always a two person crew but had different FO's being swapped out passing thu ATL. The FO getting on the remainder of trip(second FO of the day...his first flight) was on a GS....Herkflyer opted to extend as he considered it safe to do(his prerogative). That extension resulted in the FO getting his GS as opposed to suit up pay(possibly). I image the FO was delighted Herkflyer didn't bang out fatigued as a matter of principle(which is what some are advocating).

Fatigue and sick are the same side of the coin. Use it if you need to or use it if you don't need to.... but at least acknowledge to yourself your selfishness(greed) impacts more people than you....first and foremost the customers.

I'll be the first to admit I have used the rules to my advantage....but I never lied to myself in an effort to make me "righteous" with BS "reasons".(as some are wont to do on APC and in real life on the line).

 

The last administration screwed over the railroad workers. I like the current administration.

 

Can't get retro on QOL and many times the retro $$$$ is not really retro but a mere payout less than what is really owed.

 

You are conflating 2 different things:

1) a duty to not operate when fatigued

and

2) a choice whether to extend a duty day beyond the FAR limit by use of an exemption to do so.

 

Think you're getting mixed up here Buck. My or any of my crew's decision to not extend is their decision. An extension is by exception, nothing more. And I, or anyone else is not required to do so. It's not to get back at "the man" - it's simply a safety call. The company can not compel us to extend. We accept it, or don't accept it at our own choosing.

 

The COVID one was also the only contract where we opened to essentially double Delta’s pilot costs. The only other opener like that in our history was the 777 pay negotiations. In fact if you want you can dust that opener off and use it again! The result will be the same.

 

Why on earth would anyone care if some turd greenslipper is “miffed”? Especially when they still get paid just for showing up…

I have far more respect for people that don’t lift a finger to help the company than I do the greedy pig trough green slip guzzlers. Those people are half of what’s wrong with the company.