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#331
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Lol, you're a riot.
I'll have been here longer than you when I retire. I was hired not long after you. Yes I remember. I was based there. Not talking about back then.
Im talking about the time leading up to the closing and after. We didn't change the flying.
It was merely a point to gloopy. He's talking BOS narrow body opening, we have about the same NB flying into CVG still on NB as BOS (maybe slightly more favoring BOS but not much) yet we shut the pilot base down.
Anyway, we have no control over how network operates and what or where they are planning to open or close pilot bases. The speculation though is entertaining
I'll have been here longer than you when I retire. I was hired not long after you. Yes I remember. I was based there. Not talking about back then.
Im talking about the time leading up to the closing and after. We didn't change the flying.
It was merely a point to gloopy. He's talking BOS narrow body opening, we have about the same NB flying into CVG still on NB as BOS (maybe slightly more favoring BOS but not much) yet we shut the pilot base down.
Anyway, we have no control over how network operates and what or where they are planning to open or close pilot bases. The speculation though is entertaining
#332
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https://x.com/TanMart03/status/2033039741646729291?s=20 Seems like wishful thinking, SLC-SYD is a bit shorter flying time than JNB-ATL. And a bit lower, doable on the 359 I’d imagine?
#333
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https://x.com/TanMart03/status/2033039741646729291?s=20 Seems like wishful thinking, SLC-SYD is a bit shorter flying time than JNB-ATL. And a bit lower, doable on the 359 I’d imagine?
#334
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From: Taxi Driver
The hub came to Delta because of western. It’s likely stayed in part due to the church, but we inherited it, which you know.
#335
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#336
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https://x.com/TanMart03/status/2033039741646729291?s=20 Seems like wishful thinking, SLC-SYD is a bit shorter flying time than JNB-ATL. And a bit lower, doable on the 359 I’d imagine?
I am curious to see as SLC continues to expand if it sees more international. It seems like it’s the best west coast airport for expansion and it already supports quite a bit of connecting traffic.
#337
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Western was in deep financial trouble. The Morman church provided the money to keep them out of Chapter 11. The Denver hub quickly migrated to SLC.
#338
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I don't believe our choice in pilot bases provides all our profits. But my point to you was.. don't look at how other airlines do things to say we should do it here. We make money (a metric *hit ton) because the entire airline makes choices that add up to maximize profit. Other airlines make some pretty bad choices and they are losing money.. in JB's terms.. an incredible ton. I'd be worried if I was working there. A large downturn in the economy because of a war... well.. look who went under in 1990-91..
Would I prefer the base 30 minutes from my house have WB flying? Sure.. but Networks put the airplanes where it's most profitable and apparently this base is not it.
Would I prefer the base 30 minutes from my house have WB flying? Sure.. but Networks put the airplanes where it's most profitable and apparently this base is not it.
Whatever JB is doing or not WRT their financial performance, they would be way worse off if they closed either their NYC or BOS pilot domiciles. NYC is mission critical to them and BOS is their absolute crown jewel because it’s one of the best domestic markets anywhere and they wisely ran a pick six when Leo dropped the ball and built the Taj Mullin and abandoned an entire terminal for them to walk in and dominate.
The profit differential between DL and JB has almost nothing to do with DL not having a NB BOS base. It would probably save money and increase reliability a little for DL to have one however there will be some small first year costs associated with a new category however it’s a bit less since the base is already open. But to point to the profits of DL and JB to imply that not having a BOS base for DL is a significant part of that is just silly.
#339
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I think the big advantage SLC-SYD has over JNB-ATL is the density altitude equation in the winter. Very likely this would be a northern hemisphere winter seasonal route. That time of year the DA in SLC shouldn’t be too limiting unlike JNB where the same time of year it’s hot.
I am curious to see as SLC continues to expand if it sees more international. It seems like it’s the best west coast airport for expansion and it already supports quite a bit of connecting traffic.
I am curious to see as SLC continues to expand if it sees more international. It seems like it’s the best west coast airport for expansion and it already supports quite a bit of connecting traffic.
#340
I think the big advantage SLC-SYD has over JNB-ATL is the density altitude equation in the winter. Very likely this would be a northern hemisphere winter seasonal route. That time of year the DA in SLC shouldn’t be too limiting unlike JNB where the same time of year it’s hot.
I am curious to see as SLC continues to expand if it sees more international. It seems like it’s the best west coast airport for expansion and it already supports quite a bit of connecting traffic.
I am curious to see as SLC continues to expand if it sees more international. It seems like it’s the best west coast airport for expansion and it already supports quite a bit of connecting traffic.
When does SLC get a longer runway?
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