It would’ve passed. So really everything just gets delayed for another month at the best.

Even if it’s debated for a month before the vote closes, that doesn’t change anything. It still stands as what was voted on.

Crystal ball needs tuning.

Your bias is showing.

Read all the council comms. Read the room here.

No one is saying it’s perfect. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good enough.

S6 is over the horizon. That’s where we fine tune it.

I don’t care what the room or you say, do the democracy. Look legit at least and can I get the winning lotto numbers while you’re at it?

Frustration is gonna build and think more people will get fed up with the few farmers messing with their opportunity to make more money. I think the deal making will continue and get worse, and this is whu I don't see how we have leverage

We did the democracy, it’s why we elect reps. It’s why we talk to our reps.

This is going to be an iterative process. The current status quo isn’t working. Let’s take a step forward and we can see the goods and others, how the company responds, and we fine tune it in Section 6. There’s the democracy you want.

I don't think they believed it would pass, which is likely why it wasn't sent to MEMRAT. If they do things like this in closed session, what is talking to your reps going to do? You can provide all the input you want, but sometimes you have to see the language to make a decision. Instead they "had to vote it in, so we could see what was in it..." I would have voted no simply based on the fact there is no timeline to QS implementation and no real punishment attached to it not being implemented by X date. I don't see the no lookback for sick is a real motivator for them, some disagree with me for sure. It also should have been leveled with GS, again, some disagree.

It was unannounced and nobody was informed that input was needed and an MOU was being considered. What does the policy manual have to say about memrat? You should have just to bolster your position but you didn’t. Shadow governance sews distrust. Back to the real question, what did we get? Not what do you think we will eventually get.


And why did the MOU announcement lead with “we didn’t write them into compliance?” Hmmmm

I initially thought they rushed it through to get QS’s going ASAP brcause IA is screwing over so many pilots. Now I don’t understand why we didn’t take the time for pilot input. QS isn’t coming for a long time so there was no reason to rush.

I don’t agree with the closed session, there we agree. I also wouldn’t be surprised if it went closed because of some info they were being presented that couldn’t be seen in open.

I think it would’ve passed in memrat. We’ll never know for sure. There was ALOT of push on the reps to get something done.