True for OOBWS
Not for GS

 

You're (deliberately and intentionally) leaving out an important part. GS were never proffers pre- ARCOS and neither were next day WS. Also literally zero pilots put in OOB anything without the hope that they would actually be awarded and fly such a trip. Those factors were all the difference in the world.

 

You can argue semantics all you want, but it is the same. Biggest difference is a M7 WS can only get you to ALV then you can’t get more (in theory if they are actually doing it right) and GS is infinite.
But still shouldn’t be able to get a second one while still in the footprint of the first, regardless of step.

 

Despite our good operational stats pre-ARCOS, the company brought it in because it is super efficient at assigning available work in a rapid amount of time when used properly. ARCOS is used by utility companies to assign work when blizzards, hurricanes, and other calamities take out power, gas, and water lines.

Could you imagine if those workers had 12 minutes per person to respond to these situations? No. It would be a public nightmare. They blast them all, they get assigned ASAP and things get fixed.

It's only the most self entitled pilots that choose to put in slips, and then complain when those calls come in, that have somehow won the battle to put time restrictions in to the PWA.

It is baffling, aggravating and the company will never, ever put that power back in any labor groups hands. Why? Because it is absolutely ridiculous and anathema to running a business.

 

Man. Did the real gloopy retire and give you his login credentials?

OG gloopy was way too realistic to claim that any side letter is "free." And also more cleverly verbose.

Nothing is free with this management team.

And it's not even "free" for them. The coding costs to level 23M7 are real, and probably significant. Also, there is no way they are going to run it manually. If they know it's something we want they'll squeeze us. Just like we better squeeze them with AA.

While not doing it "gives us zero extra leverage," doing it would cost them leverage, if it's even an MEC negotiating priority. Which may not even be the case. A side letter needs to be signed by both parties. There is absolutely no reason the flight ops HMFIC would sign this.

I'll put it another way: if the company approached the MEC tomorrow and asked for something outside section 6, while the pilots got nothing in return, would the MEC do it? I sure hope not, and if they did, it would probably result in some recalls. At least, I hope it would.

 

I just want a system to call me for GSs that are proffers to ME. ARCOS is not that.

 

Another pro-management screed. Incredible.

Take what "power" from labor's hands? What on earth are you talking about? Under the RLA, their options are limited.

Our job as labor is to collectively maximize benefits to the pilot group, and leave things better than when we got here, not "run a business."

Are you still an LCP, by any chance?

 

Speaking of semantics, 23m7 WS payments will take you to the WS pickup limit, not ALV.

In other words, whoops, your bad...

 

Small cats, sure large cats will take too long and running WSs will not be done regardless of that call. At 12 minutes per, a cat will 50 could take 10 hours. 23M7 is usable at 8 hours prior so 18 hours out in this case would put the coverage in the long (23N) ladder so there really is no reason to run coverage if they have a good idea the trip won't be covered.

 

It's not you. I've heard the same suspiciously similar talking points from people who think a green slip is something that happens on a wet golf course.

There's definitely talking points that are making the rounds.