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02-26-2026 | 02:30 PM
#2422
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From: MD88
Old / sick parents?
be near kids / grandkids?
actual live where you want?
but you are right, we are much better off delaying the next contract as long as possible. 23m7 is the best commuter option we’ve got!
02-26-2026 | 02:38 PM
#2423
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From: Enoch Powell Enthusiast
PRO: The sick parents who can't/won't move, a spouse with cancer who needs to live next to the best treatment you can afford in a non-Delta base city, or the same for progeny is probably the best argument I've ever seen for a better commuting policy.
CON: My guess is the vast majority of pilots who commute do it for lifestyle reasons. IE:
"I want to live next to the mountains (ski); water (I sail); no-taxes (f-yeah); Idaho/Montana (My militia)" etc.
Commuter policies are an inherently divisive issue. Definitely fight for what you want, but there will never, ever be consensus.
CON: My guess is the vast majority of pilots who commute do it for lifestyle reasons. IE:
"I want to live next to the mountains (ski); water (I sail); no-taxes (f-yeah); Idaho/Montana (My militia)" etc.
Commuter policies are an inherently divisive issue. Definitely fight for what you want, but there will never, ever be consensus.
02-26-2026 | 03:33 PM
#2424
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im sure nothing in your future life would never ever make you a commuter right?
Old / sick parents?
be near kids / grandkids?
actual live where you want?
but you are right, we are much better off delaying the next contract as long as possible. 23m7 is the best commuter option we’ve got!
Old / sick parents?
be near kids / grandkids?
actual live where you want?
but you are right, we are much better off delaying the next contract as long as possible. 23m7 is the best commuter option we’ve got!
At a minimum, commuter policies are insurance policies for every pilot on the list. This is the contract cycle that needs to raise our current clause from industry worst to industry leading. And that’s before selling any auto-accept leverage.
02-26-2026 | 05:46 PM
#2425
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Yeah, some of the most diehard “I’ll only live in base”, anti-commuting pilots I’ve ever met are now commuters due to changes in life or company circumstances. At a minimum, commuter policies are insurance policies for every pilot on the list. This is the contract cycle that needs to raise our current clause from industry worst to industry leading. And that’s before selling any auto-accept leverage.
02-26-2026 | 06:06 PM
#2426
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I don't think most pilots are against improving our commuter clause. Many are just against pushing for PSC due to a perceived high cost to attain for something that mostly only impacts half the group.Heck, over the years, I've flown with a handful of commuters that were against PSC.
02-26-2026 | 06:24 PM
#2427
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From: Blue Juice Taste Tester
Adding in: no fault commuter clause not subject to discipline. JS reservation requires no back up and if bumped you get PS. If you choose to to have a Delta back up, get a free trip to work on your backup if you miss your primary and no discipline if that flight is then cancelled, delayed or diverted.
It was the only areas of the contract not touched in last section 6 so I feel no need for a quid with locals
It was the only areas of the contract not touched in last section 6 so I feel no need for a quid with locals
If your flight can't make it off the ground as a commuter, it doesn't matter if you got that seat with positive space, jump seat res or nonrev. Protections for getting to work seem more important and would impact every single pilot here.
02-26-2026 | 06:27 PM
#2428
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The company is going to be trying to negotiate away from that $200m emergency coverage tab. We're not giving it away for anything less than $200m value. PSC ain't it. Nab that elsewhere.
02-26-2026 | 06:42 PM
#2429
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Flat tire? I guess but we’d prob have to show a receipt for a tire lol
02-26-2026 | 06:51 PM
#2430
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What kind of protections do drivers need? Pay protection if you have traffic? I’m guessing that even in the worst of ATL, LAX, or NYC traffic even in horrible traffic, you’d still be at the airport before a short call can make it.
Flat tire? I guess but we’d prob have to show a receipt for a tire lol
Flat tire? I guess but we’d prob have to show a receipt for a tire lol
Think, as a commuter, how you are protected from discipline if you satisfy the requirements of the commuter policy, yet fail to report for a trip.
Protect non-commuters (locals) from discipline for similar unforeseen/uncontrollable circumstances.
Further, protect commuters from discipline for the same thing while driving to get to their commuter policy conforming commute flight.
Last edited by Verdell; 02-26-2026 at 07:12 PM.
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