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Old Yesterday | 06:59 PM
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Is an unused reserve day considered a day off?
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Old Yesterday | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by OscarRomeo
Is an unused reserve day considered a day off?
Shush, GenZ/Millennial/no-tipper/person that enjoys video games.

Also, 24 hours of binging playtime on your Atari/Commodore 64 during LC is 100% considered "work" if you don't get called.
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Old Yesterday | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Why should it "go away?" What's wrong with you gen z & millenials? I don't get your ire here.

think I'm going to start tip shaming you. Why not, I don't have much time left here. Might as well highlight your miserly ways and publicly shame you.

JFC, it's $2. It's not like they're asking for your first born or something.
You're going to die on that hill! ...by a stroke. At your age you need to keep the blood pressure down. Let it go man, let it go.
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Old Yesterday | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Why should it "go away?" What's wrong with you gen z & millenials? I don't get your ire here.

think I'm going to start tip shaming you. Why not, I don't have much time left here. Might as well highlight your miserly ways and publicly shame you.

JFC, it's $2. It's not like they're asking for your first born or something.
I won’t pretend to speak for my(admittedly awesome ) generation, but as an ancient millennial I assure you it is not about the money. It’s about the generational difference in carrying cash. Absent local currency in foreign lands where credit isn’t widely accepted, I use cash for nothing. Literally nothing. Except these damn van driver tips. I do it out of tradition (2 bucks a leg, 5 if it’s over a hour) but I admit it annoys me. To get 1s or 5s I have to drive all the way to the bank (15 min each way) then wait in line, then drive home all the way home.

That’s time away from my family on my days off and for what? Van tips need to get with the modern era. Hell, I’d pay 10 bucks a leg if I could do it by Venmo and spare the trip to the bank. For the older generations, carrying cash is NBD and tip money can be had in change. But for us it’s absurd, we don’t deal in cash and have to make special trips on our downtime just so Joe from FSD gets two bucks in hard currency.

TLDR: It’s not the money. Like at all. Times change, just hang a damn sign with your Venmo and be done with it.

BTW HK, just missed millennial 350A last bid. If you do decide to bid SEA, drinks are on me.
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Old Today | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
You're going to die on that hill! ...by a stroke. At your age you need to keep the blood pressure down. Let it go man, let it go.
Not dying anywhere, merely pointing out observations over the last few years and questioning what is the ire of GenZ and millenials not tipping the van/bus drivers.

Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
I won’t pretend to speak for my(admittedly awesome ) generation, but as an ancient millennial I assure you it is not about the money. It’s about the generational difference in carrying cash. Absent local currency in foreign lands where credit isn’t widely accepted, I use cash for nothing. Literally nothing. Except these damn van driver tips. I do it out of tradition (2 bucks a leg, 5 if it’s over a hour) but I admit it annoys me. To get 1s or 5s I have to drive all the way to the bank (15 min each way) then wait in line, then drive home all the way home.

That’s time away from my family on my days off and for what? Van tips need to get with the modern era. Hell, I’d pay 10 bucks a leg if I could do it by Venmo and spare the trip to the bank. For the older generations, carrying cash is NBD and tip money can be had in change. But for us it’s absurd, we don’t deal in cash and have to make special trips on our downtime just so Joe from FSD gets two bucks in hard currency.

TLDR: It’s not the money. Like at all. Times change, just hang a damn sign with your Venmo and be done with it.

BTW HK, just missed millennial 350A last bid. If you do decide to bid SEA, drinks are on me.
This is rich. Hard to get cash? Use your debit card and click that little button and select amount for cash back next time you get groceries or something else. Have the cashier break the larger bill(s) down for you. It takes all of 30 seconds and you do it while already there at the store. Not hard at all.

You guys a really twisting yourselves in to justifying why you don't tip. LIke I said, seen plenty of <2 year FA's tip. While FO's just walk away.

Cash is king, always has been always will be.
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Old Today | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Not dying anywhere, merely pointing out observations over the last few years and questioning what is the ire of GenZ and millenials not tipping the van/bus drivers.



This is rich. Hard to get cash? Use your debit card and click that little button and select amount for cash back next time you get groceries or something else. Have the cashier break the larger bill(s) down for you. It takes all of 30 seconds and you do it while already there at the store. Not hard at all.

You guys a really twisting yourselves in to justifying why you don't tip. LIke I said, seen plenty of <2 year FA's tip. While FO's just walk away.

Cash is king, always has been always will be.
My debit card is locked in a drawer that I only open on the rare events I need to go to the bank to get cash. Who is paying for groceries with a debit card?
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Every couple trips I walk into the credit Union and swap a $20 bill for singles. Keep them in my pocket. If the driver is on time, courteous and safe they get $2. If we have to wait it’s $1.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
My debit card is locked in a drawer that I only open on the rare events I need to go to the bank to get cash. Who is paying for groceries with a debit card?
lol maybe next time when you go to the grocery store to write a check you can write it for $20 cash back and use them break it into smaller bills.
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
My debit card is locked in a drawer that I only open on the rare events I need to go to the bank to get cash. Who is paying for groceries with a debit card?
The guy who thinks cash is still king.
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
Not dying anywhere, merely pointing out observations over the last few years and questioning what is the ire of GenZ and millenials not tipping the van/bus drivers.



This is rich. Hard to get cash? Use your debit card and click that little button and select amount for cash back next time you get groceries or something else. Have the cashier break the larger bill(s) down for you. It takes all of 30 seconds and you do it while already there at the store. Not hard at all.

You guys a really twisting yourselves in to justifying why you don't tip. LIke I said, seen plenty of <2 year FA's tip. While FO's just walk away.


Cash is king, always has been always will be.

As an aside from the who tip debate, I'd recommend using your debit card as little as possible. Only takes once of having to deal with fraud on your debit card to realize a credit card is far better of an option.

As said above, I'll tip, though many times I forget to break a $20 and it can be painful to get it broken at times. However, my biggest issue with it is why aren't the business owners paying a proper wage? Pay them right and good service should just be the standard. The onus should be on the business owner and not the customer. Maybe we should get tips for a smooth flight and a good landing (sorry 717 guys)? I don't think so because we get paid a proper wage (though it's never good enough ), so why shouldn't these industries pay better? Americans keep buying into this BS idea that it's ok to pay the service industry less, by allowing it to continue. Freakonomics actually did a few podcasts on tipping, pretty good stuff.


Cash is king until you go to a place that doesn't accept cash, which oddly, I'm seeing more often now. But it's never a bad practice to have a $100 tucked away in a wallet for the just in case scenarios. It might get you out of a pickle anywhere in the world.


Originally Posted by demon llama
lol maybe next time when you go to the grocery store to write a check you can write it for $20 cash back and use them break it into smaller bills.

I went through AF pilot training with a bunch of Euros circa 2006. One day a classmate was writing a check and the Euros in our class looked at him like he had found some ancient relic. They're like, you guys still use checks? They were amazed that we'd still use something to easily counterfeited.
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