Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-21-2012, 01:01 PM
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I hated to do it, but I sent in a card for DPA after reading the Chairman's letter. I then emailed my rep and thanked the him for voting no but I told him that I could no longer support ALPA and would now be supporting the decertification of ALPA.
For those of you in council 1 you got an email from our reps outlining why they voted no. For the rest of you let me summarize. Basically they said that they believed that the negotiating committee did not follow the will of the pilot group as outlined by the contract survey.
Basically we spoke and ALPA listened to the company and ignored us
bye bye alpa
For those of you in council 1 you got an email from our reps outlining why they voted no. For the rest of you let me summarize. Basically they said that they believed that the negotiating committee did not follow the will of the pilot group as outlined by the contract survey.
Basically we spoke and ALPA listened to the company and ignored us
bye bye alpa
05-21-2012, 01:01 PM
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From Bloomberg. Read very carefully:
Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) may soon purchase more narrow-body jets when a tentative contract with its pilot union is ratified by a majority of members.
The accord, which includes pay raises of almost 20 percent, would allow many first officers to upgrade to captain while also creating additional openings for new first officers, Tim O’Malley, chairman of the executive council for the Delta chapter of the Air Line Pilots Association, wrote today in a letter to members.
The contract would also allow the Atlanta-based airline to add more 76-seat regional jets, although “this access can only occur if Delta first acquires small narrow-body jets flown by Delta mainline pilots,” while also getting rid of more 50-seat aircraft flown by regional partners, O’Malley said. Pilots prize jobs on main jet fleets because it means better pay and benefits over the long term.
Analysts have speculated that Delta is among the interested buyers of the 88 Boeing Co. (BA) 717s that Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV) acquired when it purchased AirTran Holdings Inc. last year. Southwest has said repeatedly it would like to get rid of the planes as soon as it can.
The jets have 117 seats and if acquired by Delta would be flown by the carrier’s pilots rather than by regional partners.
Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) may soon purchase more narrow-body jets when a tentative contract with its pilot union is ratified by a majority of members.
The accord, which includes pay raises of almost 20 percent, would allow many first officers to upgrade to captain while also creating additional openings for new first officers, Tim O’Malley, chairman of the executive council for the Delta chapter of the Air Line Pilots Association, wrote today in a letter to members.
The contract would also allow the Atlanta-based airline to add more 76-seat regional jets, although “this access can only occur if Delta first acquires small narrow-body jets flown by Delta mainline pilots,” while also getting rid of more 50-seat aircraft flown by regional partners, O’Malley said. Pilots prize jobs on main jet fleets because it means better pay and benefits over the long term.
Analysts have speculated that Delta is among the interested buyers of the 88 Boeing Co. (BA) 717s that Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV) acquired when it purchased AirTran Holdings Inc. last year. Southwest has said repeatedly it would like to get rid of the planes as soon as it can.
The jets have 117 seats and if acquired by Delta would be flown by the carrier’s pilots rather than by regional partners.
05-21-2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Of course it can...you're spending most of your life in an underground nuclear bunker in Omaha...right?
What did you do to save your company from its pilots today Slow?
I guess you're here to monitor and guage sentiment so you can report back about the enemy.
05-21-2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by brakechatter
From Bloomberg. Read very carefully:
Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) may soon purchase more narrow-body jets when a tentative contract with its pilot union is ratified by a majority of members.
The accord, which includes pay raises of almost 20 percent, would allow many first officers to upgrade to captain while also creating additional openings for new first officers, Tim O’Malley, chairman of the executive council for the Delta chapter of the Air Line Pilots Association, wrote today in a letter to members.
The contract would also allow the Atlanta-based airline to add more 76-seat regional jets, although “this access can only occur if Delta first acquires small narrow-body jets flown by Delta mainline pilots,” while also getting rid of more 50-seat aircraft flown by regional partners, O’Malley said. Pilots prize jobs on main jet fleets because it means better pay and benefits over the long term.
Analysts have speculated that Delta is among the interested buyers of the 88 Boeing Co. (BA) 717s that Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV) acquired when it purchased AirTran Holdings Inc. last year. Southwest has said repeatedly it would like to get rid of the planes as soon as it can.
The jets have 117 seats and if acquired by Delta would be flown by the carrier’s pilots rather than by regional partners.
Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) may soon purchase more narrow-body jets when a tentative contract with its pilot union is ratified by a majority of members.
The accord, which includes pay raises of almost 20 percent, would allow many first officers to upgrade to captain while also creating additional openings for new first officers, Tim O’Malley, chairman of the executive council for the Delta chapter of the Air Line Pilots Association, wrote today in a letter to members.
The contract would also allow the Atlanta-based airline to add more 76-seat regional jets, although “this access can only occur if Delta first acquires small narrow-body jets flown by Delta mainline pilots,” while also getting rid of more 50-seat aircraft flown by regional partners, O’Malley said. Pilots prize jobs on main jet fleets because it means better pay and benefits over the long term.
Analysts have speculated that Delta is among the interested buyers of the 88 Boeing Co. (BA) 717s that Southwest Airlines Co. (LUV) acquired when it purchased AirTran Holdings Inc. last year. Southwest has said repeatedly it would like to get rid of the planes as soon as it can.
The jets have 117 seats and if acquired by Delta would be flown by the carrier’s pilots rather than by regional partners.
05-21-2012, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Actually the trigger for 20% Profit Sharing is $2.5 billion PTIX. That remains unchanged.
Is the rumor of a reduction in profit sharing false? That would be good news.
(I understand slowplay has seen the TA, but where are the rest of you guys getting specifics?)
05-21-2012, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
That is my understanding of the 76 seat clause. The mainline fleet has to get back above 767 airplanes and is tied to the 76 seat purchase.
I am not selling anything, and I am not buying anything. Section 1 is a HUGE noose around our necks--kinda like the national debt. Sooner or later, if we want out of the hole, we gotta pay the piper.
I am trying to talk myself out of a slam dunk no
05-21-2012, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
It's just the below that which was cut down to 10%. They seem to not be spouting off on that detail.
I feel embarrassed for the negotiators. There are some (only some) good work rules improvements, but the pay is just absolutely insulting.
This is a wash if not concessionary.
I feel embarrassed for the negotiators. There are some (only some) good work rules improvements, but the pay is just absolutely insulting.
This is a wash if not concessionary.
Wash??? Must be Florida State math!
05-21-2012, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
That is my understanding of the 76 seat clause. The mainline fleet has to get back above 767 airplanes and is tied to the 76 seat purchase.
05-21-2012, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
What happens when it drops back below 767 airframes? And you KNOW it will.. as soon as they get all the 76 seaters they are allowed.
05-21-2012, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Yeah, if the 2012 PTIX income was the same as 2011, then the pilots would have gotten $74 million in profit sharing. With the new TA the pilots would get $49 million in profit sharing, but an additional $218 million in pay (in 2013).
Wash??? Must be Florida State math!
Wash??? Must be Florida State math!
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