Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 1200350)

How do you know we all won't get 7? We've mostly all been getting at least 5 or 6 a month lately in my category anyway (unless you are senior). The extra pay is nice, but again; I think the 7th SC should be optional like the ALV+15 thing.

Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1200170)

Round and round we go....

The bottom line is there are more total large RJ's. That's the threat/problem which cannot be ignored regardless of semantics and shell games.

Large RJ's can do flying currently performed by Delta mainline due to their economics. But you already knew that from the hundreds of times this fact has been pointed out.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1200190)

The 70 seaters are not under long term contract. Many of the 70 seat leases are up in 2015. There really isn't anything to stop a 1:1 trade with 70 seaters to 76 seatsrs.

Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1200182)

OK Slowplay, Pineapple Guy or whatever management/ALPA stooge you happen to be....

I will overlook everything that tells me this will screw my career and permanently damage the plight of most Delta/Major airline pilots. Now I'm voting YES. Yay.

Screw the profession.

Screw our health and family life.

Screw any advancement for another ten years while we continue to shrink (do more with less pilots).

Screw it all all. As long as I get a few more beans. Maybe I can grow a bean stock and find riches at the top. That's a good career plan I think. It makes as much sense as you do.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 1200202)

Um, the old DL limit was raised to incorporate the old NWA limit, notwithstanding the grievance settlement on the language that led to the current 255 cap. In fact, DL inherited the AS mess and the GW increase to accommodate CPZ's larger AC. It even went on to cover AC that weren't even being operated yet but were "on order".

If DL buys another airline with RJ feed, there is a 110% chance DALPA will settle for a higher limit at the very least prorated to the combined totals, unless another deal is reached to park 50's in exchange for even more 90's, which will be called the same victory this TA is being called WRT that.

It will be sold because of the "equity stake" and more small raises and maybe a few things here or there (back down to 6 sort calls?) followed by the promise to "get what we can now and "get em next time". We have got to start learning from history.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1200210)

Great points. We have over a month until TA voting closes. The reality is that you will need to constantly repeat yourself or save posts to use as responses for that month. The "yes" and "undecided" voters have an equal right to sell their position as a "no" vote does. Just argue the points.

You make good points, but many may stop reading if you get frustrated and mad. This is a fight of attrition.

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1200213)

I'm sure DALPA could fly the 76ers for cheaper than Comair; unfortunately you'll need to compare your rates to GoJetsss since that's where the DCI growth is.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1200403)

Especially when it only takes about half the 717s to put us above the magic 767 mainline fleet requirement. 70s become 76s... and then there is ZERO protection against pump and dump... none.

Originally Posted by Jack Bauer (Post 1200397)

When the staffing is even more lean (it hasn't been lean for some time due to "capacity restraint....parking airplanes) you will get called 7 times and you will get flown as much as they can legally fly you. Nobody should use what is happening now as a gauge for what will happen in the future.