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Originally Posted by SailorJerry
(Post 1208010)
My argument for better leverage in 2016 is a simple issue of supply and demand. When 5 airlines need 10,000 pilots in the following 10 years, where will the most highly qualified pilots go? To the highest compensating airline with the best work rules. Where are they all flocking now? Oh wait. They're not.
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APC Lurker,
Or as one Pan Am pilot famously said: "If Pan Am flies a kite, the string has to be held by a Pan Am pilot" |
Originally Posted by APCLurker
(Post 1208019)
Because this is how it starts.
I would bet some of the discussion being held back in the day when rj's were first given away was: "it's only 50 seat aircraft and flying, and they're small jets, nobody will want them anyways, and they're not even Boeing....." Then later... |
Originally Posted by ATW
Mediated talks between American Airlines (AA) and its pilots on a new labor pact, which took place June 4-7 under the supervision of a judge, are slated to continue the week of June 10 as the sides seek to avoid a bankruptcy-court imposed solution later this month.
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You know what the beauty of the 3 year contract model is?
Every time you want to do something your pilots will view as positive you can now just sit on it until the last year and then roll it out with some sort of desired concessions. That way nothing good, like more airplanes, ever happens without forcing a concession elsewhere. You can't do that as often with a 5 year contract, but a 3 year you can. Not to mention the "we'll get them next time" mentality it creates. |
So, when do we vote?
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1208039)
There is a word for the small RJs, I want to say it's called FLAPS? F-ing little airplanes or F-ing little airplane pilots. Anyways, someone i was talking to says those words are still thrown about where they shouldn't be.
Yep. I wonder if pilots back in the day had the same "beneath us" opinion of the dc9-10. Because if they didn't, I'm not sure why they do now as some of these rj's are basically the same bleeping airplane. I think nw's dc9-10's had 84 seats?? Stretching the memory back there, can't quite remember. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 1207711)
That is a fantastic idea. If we win a grievance, let's just feel good about winning while and then roll over on the reason for the grievance in the first place!
Curious, how do you feel about the handful of A319s we have configured with about 30 seats and gold trim? |
Originally Posted by JungleBus
(Post 1207712)
I expect such spineless, senseless, offensive verbal diarrhea from management. Coming from a line pilot - ostensibly a unionist! - it's downright appalling.
The "If you don't like it, quit" argument is old and busted :rolleyes:. |
Originally Posted by Erdude32
(Post 1208047)
So, when do we vote?
Need to get the roadshow video up for those of us who were not able to go. |
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