Well, the UAL nonrev number is 800-UAL-LIST, last I used it. You can list there (not necessary if you're jumpseating - you list at the gate), but may still have trouble getting flight loads from them.

For flight loads on most airlines, I use flightstats.com and search "Flight Availability" under the Flights tab. It doesn't give you a direct readout of seats available but does tell you the number of tickets still available for purchase in each fare bucket. I've found it a pretty handy tool for flights the world over (American being a notable exception).

Well you've certainly proven yourself as a warrior. Your commendations are admirable - and I mean that with sincerity.

Now, can you please explain why, given our competitive set at Delta Air Lines, that we were not able to obtain all of your wildest contractual desires?

Or are you just sniveling?

I am pretty sure that they are doing a Beta test with at least 1 airline. Saw the same thing in MSP a few weeks ago.

Scoop

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Hey guys,

For about the last two years Compass has allowed Delta pilots to utilize the flight attendent jumpseats for commuting purposes. Thats up to three pilot jumpseaters per flight. So far this has been a one way agreement, with no offical reciprocity on mainline Delta flights. The union has indicated that if some sort of reciprocal agreement does not come into being, the ability for Delta pilots to use Compass flight attendent jumpseats could get shut down.

If you get a chance, bug some of the base/system chief pilots and send an email to your reps. Thanks





I didn't read that as a threat at all. He is basically asking for us to fix something that should be fixed. Whats the big deal?


Scoop

Yep, I stand corrected. It's US Airways for now and UAL in the next year or so.

Skywest flight attendants have started KCM as well.

Superpilot, Furious, and Junglebus-- thanks much guys for the United nonrev info. Indeed, it was getting some idea of flightloads that I needed to decide whether I could make a trip early tomorrow morning that started with a DH and just popped into open time.
It all looked good... until the United folks told me my intended flight 0-darkthirty tomorrow am just got cancelled. doh!

Um, I'm all about expanding pilot options and stuff, but doods. Srsly. For a pilot group where at least 90% will end up at Delta, is this really a fight worth initiating?

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To put it in perspective, DL doesn't allow any offline pilots in their FA jumpseats. Its not like the company is just being mean to CPZ pilots or anything. Using that extremely limited benefit (but a benefit nontheless) on 30 something planes as collateral for forcing sweeping changes at an airline with 700-800 planes is pretty balsy. And stupid.

Make the request. Run it up the chain. You'd likely have most if not all DL pilots agree with you on that. But don't use it as a threat especially when you bring 5% of the seats in question to the table in the first place and then attempt to use that as threatening leverage to force sweeping changes that the company doesn't extend to anyone else anyway right now.

I support the request, but someone needs to step off the "do it or else" nonsense. You can't win anything that way. There are only varying degrees of losing.

I gotta disagree on that. Letting over 100K more people have flight deck access, especially in a job category that is just a few weeks from off the street, especially in a FA in KCM world, is a very, very bad idea. If it comes down to Bolshevik rage (which it will) I'd rather just give FA's one blocked passenger seat per flight in the back they can reserve positive space. There is no way we need to let that many entry level workers into one of the most security sensitive seats in the world just so we can play footsies with their feelings of equality.