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Tilden and Anderson
Has the meeting between Alaska CEO, Brad Tilden and Richard Anderson been discussed? They are meeting tomorrow to announce Delta and Alaska's latest steps in Seattle to include new service and product enhancements. I was curious about what time this meeting will occur and if it is open to the public.
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Timbo,
Do you happen to live in northern Kentucky and drive a blue Cooper Mini? I was just driving behind one and the license plate said "Timbo". |
Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 1272679)
It is absolutely no wonder you guys don't get it.
Nu Nothing of substance in your post. What exactly is it about the current policy manual that you don't like? What changes would you recommend that would improve the pay, working conditions, benefits of Delta pilots? What changes would you recommend that would improve teamwork? Unity? Reduce political BS? |
Originally Posted by finis72
(Post 1272950)
FTB, Does it really matter why someone voted yes ? No one I have talked to thought this contract was a slam dunk, almost to a person they contemplated all the ramifications and voted according to their perspective of risk reward and a lot of unknowns. Could we have done better ? maybe, could we have done worse ? maybe. We will never know. To judge this contract 2 months in might be a little premature but my impression of this is some no voters tend to marginalize the majority and insinuate that we somehow don't have the wisdom and knowledge of the exalted and all knowing no voters. I like to read all aspects and views on issues, there are some gems I find in opposing views. If the vote had been no I was all in regardless of the eventual outcome because the majority of my fellow pilots had deemed the TA inadequate but that didn't happen. Two years from now while we are getting ready for the next contract might be a good time to reflect on how good or bad this contract is, time will tell.
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 1272906)
or sailor, those who voted no have the maturity to move on and hope for the best despite the fear we'll need fewer pilots going forward and of course concerned of the precedence of buying our own jets by giving the company the larger and more profitable regional jets they wanted.
And did you miss the memo about the DC-9 bring the most profitable fleet? And what's so wrong with the company making money? It's like you want to financially punish them for being fiscally conservative. Would you punish your kid for putting his allowance in savings? |
Finis72, It'll be a lot sooner than 2 years from now. I was a no voter until I called my Rep. He assured me we will never see those two paultry 3% raises, because we will be back in negotiations by March, 2013, as we merge with... a player to be named later. He didn't know who, but Richard is on record as saying there would be more consolidation and Delta would be a playa'.
I just hope he was right, because if we are stuck with this POS for another 3 years, it is going to suck to be junior, and stay junior even longer, no doubt. BUT... as we have just seen (and felt) if/when we do merge with someone, it may only result in more Synergy (ie. shrinkage) which means more stagnation for the bottom half of the list. |
Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
(Post 1272953)
Timbo,
Do you happen to live in northern Kentucky and drive a blue Cooper Mini? I was just driving behind one and the license plate said "Timbo". I used to have a plate that said, PILE-IT, from back in my cancelled check flying days (nights), when we piled it over here, and piled it over there. |
Originally Posted by padre2992
(Post 1272954)
Nothing of substance in your post.
What exactly is it about the current policy manual that you don't like? What changes would you recommend that would improve the pay, working conditions, benefits of Delta pilots?
Originally Posted by padre2992
(Post 1272954)
What changes would you recommend that would improve teamwork? Unity? Reduce political BS?
The pilots have lost trust in the the process, despite being pragmatists. Without that trust, there is no unity. You would attempt to bludgeon pilots into "unity", without understanding the true source of the problem. Oh, and the stuff you call "politcal BS"...that's called "the process"' and yea, it's important. When the process is transparent, the pilots trust the system, and when you have their trust, THEN, you get their unity for free. Nu |
Originally Posted by RJtrashPilot
(Post 1272953)
Timbo,
Do you happen to live in northern Kentucky and drive a blue Cooper Mini? http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/upl...12/10/Nerd.jpg |
Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1272573)
Um, forgive me but if they were originally coming in Aug 2013 and are now coming in Sep 2013 then isn't that a change? Originally we were told that we would take delivery of 16 B717 aircraft in 2013. Now it appears that is down to 12 aircraft. Or did I misinterpret SD's latest update?
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