Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1273070)

Trip parking in its old form is not gone on the 777, it has just changed. The 777 uses an A and a B crew on each trip.

New Trip parking requires 3 pilots to do the swap.

3 friends, A, B, C: A and C are flying the same trip/destination.

A puts a trip on B's line then a whiteslips and gets his trip. Now A gets C's trip and C gets A's old trip from B.

Victory! Backslaps all around. Is this a fix?

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1273065)

The 717's are on schedule. The first ones leave SW in Apr. Delta will get the first airframe in Aug. in service date for first revenue flight is Sep.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1273073)

So everyone you met voted in favor of the TA still love the TA they voted for. Got it. Doesn't mean much, but you had already said that.

But what you were referring to as the pack mentality on this web board needed to be addressed. The people on this board who voted no are living with the contract that was voted in, but that does not mean they accept the premise of sell jobs for pay and/or new jets.

Not sure why you bring up the DC-9 as being the most profitable jet in the fleet.

As to the profitability of the company, stop spending billions to buy regional airlines that you spend billions fixing up and then billions liquidating. And stop using multiple regionals at one hub.

Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1273090)

Quoted from the DC-9 Fall Newsletter. It's genius if you think about it. A mountain of spare parts, a low insurance cost airplane (because its worthless to anyone else), the lowest per block hour crew cost, and all you gotta do is stoke it with fuel.

When was the last time Delta bought a regional? Quit living so far in the past. Delia's a 37 billion a year company. We could buy and sell Comair three times a MONTH. Do you still feel entitled to that money? Want to guess how many weeks it takes Delta to generate revenue to cover pilot payroll for a year.

You may need to focus on a different type of scope. As in you need to realize what your paltry fee for a year's worth of service looks like to an upper level executive.

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1273031)

What trend is that?

I guess some folks don't understand the difference between delivery and in-service.

There has been no change of which I'm aware.

Hope you've had a good weekend.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1273065)

The 717's are on schedule. The first ones leave SW in Apr. Delta will get the first airframe in Aug. in service date for first revenue flight is Sep.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1273093)

Gents, my question was genuine & not intended as flame. I guess it was just different wording on SD's part. In one weekly update he stated August, & his latest stated Sep. But he never distinguished between deliveries and in service.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1273096)

His wording had x aircraft a month starting in sept, so that would lend itself toward delivery and not EIS.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1273092)

Would have been nice if the union had put a bit more effort on increasing my paltry fee a bit higher than just above inflation, then.:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1273105)

Were you there? Do you have a signed NDA with the company? Then I'm guessing your conjecture is as baseless as mine.

Originally Posted by brakechatter (Post 1272898)

Hi Sailor,

My "agenda" is very simple: Represent the will of the Delta pilots, while giving them their greatest opportunities to keep safe, secure, and home to their families after work. My personal vote was no on the contract. I threw it out there not to reflect my vote, but to embolden and underscore the part that says our contract is emplaced and it is time to move on to the next deal. While doing this, we need to keep our in house issues tidy and working for the pilots. Others call that picking at lint in your navel, and I disagree. My feelings are that we are not doing a good job of certain things, and it is reflected in the communication, or lack thereof, emanating from our leadership. You'd think, judging from the posters coming out of the woodwork, that some of us are looking to burn the place down. Nothing could be further from the truth. ALPA is a bottom-up organization, and some of us have seen examples of not honoring that intended path.

I am not sure what you mean about the will of ALPA not being correct, nor how everyone you have flown with is not unhappy with the contract, yet we are still at a 70/30 split. Feel free to explain or give me a shout if you wish. I am about to head north again, in an attempt to figure out these antiquated round guages for another week, so my allotted time on here will be nil. I will be on my phone, though.