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Old 06-14-2012 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dalad
RFP=Request For Proposals. As in, hey BA, hey Airbus, make us an offer.
A350, B787-9, B777-300ER (unless we find some used ones). I would love to see us buy 747-8s but I would also like to win the powerball - not gonna happen.
Old 06-14-2012 | 03:31 PM
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But on the other hand, we've never said no to them before. That has ramifications to how big of an initial "Best Deal" we were given. I think DAL Pilots saying no would send some shock waves.

Not gonna happen though. We'll vote this puppy in.
We have said no before. We said no on the 777 rates. The company promptly sold the last 8 aircraft on firm order and marketed the 8 on the property for sale. In the end we came down to basically their original offer however lost half the airframes.
Old 06-14-2012 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by FIIGMO
We will pay for any improvements in another TA, we may get 5% more but we will give it up somewhere else. It is a negotiation.
That's NOT what negotiations mean FIIGMO!!!

Look man, you know I love ya, but please think about this. We'd all be working for the exact same conditions and pay from 1930 if this was the case. A cost neutral negotiations is appropriate when the company is in trouble. It is NOT appropriate when the company is making billions.

DALPA/management have done an incredible job of getting our newer people to believe that negotiations is defined as paying for any gains with losses in other areas.

Sigh...

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Old 06-14-2012 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
We're going to outsource WB's?!?
We already are, silly boy!

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Old 06-14-2012 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
We have said no before. We said no on the 777 rates. The company promptly sold the last 8 aircraft on firm order and marketed the 8 on the property for sale. In the end we came down to basically their original offer however lost half the airframes.
Thanks, I was misinformed. Probably won't be the last time. Have we ever turned down a contract though?
Old 06-14-2012 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
We have said no before. We said no on the 777 rates. The company promptly sold the last 8 aircraft on firm order and marketed the 8 on the property for sale. In the end we came down to basically their original offer however lost half the airframes.
And now we have 10 more than that!

See, things work out in the long term.
Old 06-14-2012 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
And now we have 10 more than that!

See, things work out in the long term.
Yeah, 7 years, 1310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension termination....they work out in the long term. I hope that you're smart enough not to help yourself into that career model. Of course, when you're hired at 25 you have time to "recover."
Old 06-14-2012 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Yeah, 7 years, 1310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension termination....they work out in the long term. I hope that you're smart enough not to help yourself into that career model. Of course, when you're hired at 25 you have time to "recover."
Wait, saying no to 777s resulted in 1,310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension terminations?
Old 06-14-2012 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Wait, saying no to 777s resulted in 1,310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension terminations?
I can see now why the SEC is viewed as an athletic conference....
Old 06-14-2012 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Wait, saying no to 777s resulted in 1,310 furloughs, 42.5% pay reduction, pension terminations?
You bet FTB. Now apologize for your insolence before slowplay issues a scathing fact-based response.

Originally Posted by slowplay
I can see now why the SEC is viewed as an athletic conference....
See!

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