I'm interested to see what the government is going to do with the tax cuts, sequestration, etc....could be a little catalyst to get things rolling depending on how it's handled. Cars seem to be doing okay but it might be just because folks have held off for a LONG time...we'll see.

that's true too Grasshopper. There was a binge of car sales post 9/11 because of the rates, possibly stealing from later years car sales.

Grassy, like you I hope we all do well.

Just wish growth was written in the contract and not stricken from the contract.

Even the gold bugs are crying. I saw one guy take out a mortgage on his house to buy more gold, and that was at $1800. The note on his house is still due despite the fact that gold is on it's way down with everything else.

Can't stay out of the rain or feed your kids with gold bars. Gambling with your home or any other necessity is absolute madness.

Chinia is the next big bubble waiting to happen. When it pops, $2.00 gas will be expensive.

If anyone has the time for a truly tedious read, try "Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds", by Charles Mackay. Written in 1841, it discusses, among other things, the Dutch tulip frenzy. It is long winded, and takes the patience of Job to get through, but it is not without useful advice and insight.

The fact that this book is still relevant illustrates that people have not gotten any smarter, despite technology, literacy and the "information age". All the internet has done is allow people to get stupid faster, in greater numbers, with less effort.

Nu

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Damn, I wished read this before I decided to go to the "Harvard of Alabama."

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Can we do an MOU?:)

My money is on a long term status quo with both sides seriously revisiting the question in about 2015, which is probably not a bad time to be negotiating.

In other words ... exactly what ALPA's kinda been saying to expect.

The 717 just isn't that good an airplane when put in a battle against airplanes which are three generations newer. It works if we really are expanding capacity into RJ markets and the CRJ900's are really expanding into CRJ200 markets. HOWEVER, if we are shrinking and displacing to the 717 from the 757 while the CRJ900's take old MD88 flying, then that's an entirely different story.Answers:

(1) Arguably it was. There are no furlough protections and ratios which we do not have now.
(2) The vote is still ahead of us. So no, it is not "too late." The question is, do we want to step off the train? If this "train" gets you closer to your intended destination (higher pay, industry standard for reserves, sick, vacation, etc ...) then might as well be on board.

I, along with many others, have been trying to evaluate this TA on the basis of Section 1 above all else. If we are continuing capacity reductions, THEN I think we might be better off forcing management to put the CRJ900 equivalent at mainline.

On the flip side, there is nothing (and probably less) keeping Delta from reducing mainline capacity under our current contract.

Again, I'm undecided. This has been the most difficult contract evaluation I've ever pondered.

Anyone know what's up with Icrew? In the Daily Trip Coverage section there's a ton of trips with Pw and Ps as reason codes, at least DTW320B.....Anyone know what that's all about?