Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1216243)

My money is on a long term status quo with both sides seriously revisiting the question in about 2015, which is probably not a bad time to be negotiating.

In other words ... exactly what ALPA's kinda been saying to expect.

The 717 just isn't that good an airplane when put in a battle against airplanes which are three generations newer. It works if we really are expanding capacity into RJ markets and the CRJ900's are really expanding into CRJ200 markets. HOWEVER, if we are shrinking and displacing to the 717 from the 757 while the CRJ900's take old MD88 flying, then that's an entirely different story

Originally Posted by DeltaA320 (Post 1216252)

Anyone know what's up with Icrew? In the Daily Trip Coverage section there's a ton of trips with Pw and Ps as reason codes, at least DTW320B.....Anyone know what that's all about?

Originally Posted by UncleSam

I saw that yesterday. If you notice many of the trips were past dates. I suspect it was a programming problem after an update.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1216243)

If we are continuing capacity reductions, THEN I think we might be better off forcing management to put the CRJ900 equivalent at mainline.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1216243)

On the flip side, there is nothing (and probably less) keeping Delta from reducing mainline capacity under our current contract.

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1216243)

I, along with many others, have been trying to evaluate this TA on the basis of Section 1 above all else. If we are continuing capacity reductions, THEN I think we might be better off forcing management to put the CRJ900 equivalent at mainline.

On the flip side, there is nothing (and probably less) keeping Delta from reducing mainline capacity under our current contract.

Again, I'm undecided. This has been the most difficult contract evaluation I've ever pondered.

Originally Posted by Pro Fessional (Post 1216306)

And absent this TA there is nothing keeping them from replacing that mainline capacity with unlimited 70-seat, 70,000 pound turboprops.

Originally Posted by NuGuy

Sure there is. It's called "passenger acceptance".

You can't call it a jet when it's swinging a prop.

Nu

Originally Posted by SailorJerry (Post 1216356)

A 6 bladed 13 foot prop with 5000shp a side that also has one of the lowest cabin interior noise levels? I think they'd be accepting. Not to mention it has a much bigger cabin interior space than a CRJ-200.

Just too bad if you put an order in now for them you probably wouldn't see one until 2016ish.

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1216227)

Even the gold bugs are crying. I saw one guy take out a mortgage on his house to buy more gold, and that was at $1800. The note on his house is still due despite the fact that gold is on it's way down with everything else.

Can't stay out of the rain or feed your kids with gold bars. Gambling with your home or any other necessity is absolute madness.

Chinia is the next big bubble waiting to happen. When it pops, $2.00 gas will be expensive.

If anyone has the time for a truly tedious read, try "Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds", by Charles Mackay. Written in 1841, it discusses, among other things, the Dutch tulip frenzy. It is long winded, and takes the patience of Job to get through, but it is not without useful advice and insight.

The fact that this book is still relevant illustrates that people have not gotten any smarter, despite technology, literacy and the "information age". All the internet has done is allow people to get stupid faster, in greater numbers, with less effort.

Nu