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gloopy 06-26-2012 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1219341)
There was a lot of talk about it two years ago, but the then current ALK CEO declined. Apparently its heating up there again.

As for the CS, if its called ALK, its 35% of the seats and already exists.

If we don't merge with HI very soon, we need to bury them on their insolent little JFK experiment with JB. Absolutely bury them.

buzzpat 06-26-2012 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1219385)
This question is a little off topic but related to the advertised growth connected to this TA, which base(s) will be impacted by the 737- 900 replacing 75s and 76s?

Well, if recent history is an indicator, ALL of them.

Waves 06-26-2012 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 1219381)
In 10 years I see them very much the same but only about 30% larger. They will still have:

1. Top shelf management
2. Said management that believes only a SWA employee should ever be entrusted with the SWA brand.
3. Said management keeping their corporate debt extremely low.
4. SWAPA prioritizing scope over any other section in the contract.

That's why when I'm asked, I tell young people that SWA should be their first choice with FDX #2.

Carl

1. True
2. True I guess.
3. Only because they fuel hedged appropriately. Otherwise they would be in debt like the rest of us.
4. Fairly easy for SWA's management to agree on Scope considering their entire business model is based on a relatively small single aircraft type.

I think there was a time when SWA's was the place to go. I wouldn't trade ten DAL years of seniority to switch at this point though.

finis72 06-26-2012 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1219348)
I do believe there have been solutions presented here. I have offered ideas as well.

Waves means viable solutions that you could sell to mgmt. I haven't seen one on here yet but maybe I missed yours.

Waves 06-26-2012 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1219385)
This question is a little off topic but related to the advertised growth connected to this TA, which base(s) will be impacted by the 737- 900 replacing 75s and 76s?

Undoubtedly all bases with both 737’s and 757’s. SLC, LAX, ATL, NYC, to name a few.

Waves 06-26-2012 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1219397)
Waves means viable solutions that you could sell to mgmt. I haven't seen one on here yet but maybe I missed yours.

Thanks Finis72, that's exactly what I meant.

APCLurker 06-26-2012 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Waves (Post 1219353)
The problem is that Management has firmly adopted the "Too expensive to operate as mainline aircraft" philosophy.


And to me, the other part of the problem is we keep agreeing with that philosophy by giving them the original, not to mention more and/or larger rj's over the years. That is something we do have control over. Our votes on these TA's.


I doubt there is a pilot here that doesn't want those 76 seaters to climb aboard the mainline.
I'm not so sure about that one. The "mentality" or thought process or whatever you want to call it that resulted in those original rj's being given away seems to be alive and well still at times.


I also don't see it as somehow our fault.
Definitely disagree here. Somewhere along the way, pilot's and alpa opened that 50 seat rj genie-in-the-bottle by voting yes. Not blaming you Waves, but we most certainly are to blame along the way for this. Smaller turbo-props should have been the end of the line for regionals. I again ask those 50 seat rj "yes voters:" what was the excuse?



Just ask one of our former furloughed pilots if he/she would have been "above" flying a mainline 76 seat RJ. NOT
The former furloughed pilots weren't the ones that opened the bottle. I would have been fine with a 50 seat rj at mainline before the furlough. Again Waves, not specifically talking to/accusing you but at least Carl has the cajones to admit that wrong-doing.

Some want to fix it, but imho, this TA does not do it. It furthers the problem, the philosophy you mentioned, by making the outsourcing more profitable with more large rj's. And no, it is not my only issue with the ta lest I be labled a "single issue voter."

RetiredFTS 06-26-2012 03:00 PM

A more pointed question is, how likely would SEA become a 737-900 base? Or would SEA be impacted at all by their addition?

buzzpat 06-26-2012 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by RetiredFTS (Post 1219429)
A more pointed question is, how likely would SEA become a 737-900 base? Or would SEA be impacted at all by their addition?

Not likely, as long as we have the code share with AK. DAL hasnt tipped their hand as it regards -900 basing. My guess, and I fly the 73, is to take a look at the bases that have 75s and -800s and you'll have a pretty good idea. SEA is an international launch point that, currently, is fed by Alaska. IMHO, the -900 will be used largely for TRANSCONs and be based in NYC, LA, ATL, and probably
DTW.

acl65pilot 06-26-2012 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1219397)
Waves means viable solutions that you could sell to mgmt. I haven't seen one on here yet but maybe I missed yours.

Now why would I spell something out completely on here. :D


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