Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-27-2012 | 09:23 AM
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@FlyZ: Maybe I’m missing your shell game theory, but doesn’t this statement cover it? “Regardless of what the Company does with the mainline fleet, the minimum block hour ratio will require that, if domestic mainline block hours are reduced below a minimum level, DCI block hours will also have to be reduced to remain in compliance with the PWA." Remember, it is and always will be the company’s call on how many mainline aircraft and block hours we fly. If they want to shrink mainline, there isn’t much we can do about it. If their intent is to shrink mainline, then they will certainly do so with or without this TA. Turning it down will not prevent them from parking older 757’s, 767’s, MD-88’s, and A-319’s and reducing our block hours.
06-27-2012 | 09:43 AM
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As for the rest of the economic meltdown hypothetical, I agree that would be a tough landscape on which to negotiate. But in that case, wouldn't Delta be coming to the pilots for relief no matter what contract is in place at the time?
06-27-2012 | 09:48 AM
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I probably would be “there” except for my dire outlook on the economy and world events. I just watched a video saying there is a chance that a barrel of oil may go to $220 in 2012. I'm not convinced of that per se, but what effect do you suppose that would have regarding our negotiating leverage? The next jobs report is supposed to be bleak again. Housing crisis is far from over. 15 global banks just got downgraded. Millions of Americans out of work. Unemployment still at 8.2%. Stockton, CA just declared BK. National debt approaching $16T and expected to be over $30T by the end of the decade. Iran getting the bomb. Greece failing. Spain failing. Italy failing. Euro going down if not away completely. US borrowing from China 40 cents on every US dollar it squanders. Blah, Blah, Blah. Yeah I know, it’s a broken record, but IMHO these events are not only unprecedented, they cannot be ignored. To do so is foolish and reckless. The company is finally making money after a decade of bleeding red ink. You can let your own chips ride, but I would rather take my chips and go home. For now anyway. Sorry about the added 76 seaters. Your welcome for the 88 717’s.
06-27-2012 | 10:00 AM
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Oil at $220 parks the 50s (and half of DCI) immediately. Scope problem solved.
As for the rest of the economic meltdown hypothetical, I agree that would be a tough landscape on which to negotiate. But in that case, wouldn't Delta be coming to the pilots for relief no matter what contract is in place at the time?
As for the rest of the economic meltdown hypothetical, I agree that would be a tough landscape on which to negotiate. But in that case, wouldn't Delta be coming to the pilots for relief no matter what contract is in place at the time?
06-27-2012 | 10:01 AM
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Roscoe, Tip, Pud, Dick, etc.
You're bet sounds like we're getting a divorce...I don't like the concept of finding a woman I hate and then buying her a house.
Finis;
With you I'm a-ok with agreeing to disagree.
06-27-2012 | 10:04 AM
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For plan B to work they would have to buy Pinnacle and shut it down to get full relief from all the 50 seaters. Problem with that is we have scope language that Lee Moak signed that prevents that from happening. So either DALPA gives up the 76 seat jets in a LOA or they face a DFR from the 9E pilots.
Oh, at no point did I say that the conflict of interest within ALPA would not be tested - if our bargaining agent was truly bargaining just for us.
06-27-2012 | 10:10 AM
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I probably would be “there” except for my dire outlook on the economy and world events. I just watched a video saying there is a chance that a barrel of oil may go to $220 in 2012. I'm not convinced of that per se, but what effect do you suppose that would have regarding our negotiating leverage? The next jobs report is supposed to be bleak again. Housing crisis is far from over. 15 global banks just got downgraded. Millions of Americans out of work. Unemployment still at 8.2%. Stockton, CA just declared BK. National debt approaching $16T and expected to be over $30T by the end of the decade. Iran getting the bomb. Greece failing. Spain failing. Italy failing. Euro going down if not away completely. US borrowing from China 40 cents on every US dollar it squanders. Blah, Blah, Blah. Yeah I know, it’s a broken record, but IMHO these events are not only unprecedented, they cannot be ignored. To do so is foolish and reckless. The company is finally making money after a decade of bleeding red ink. You can let your own chips ride, but I would rather take my chips and go home. For now anyway. Sorry about the added 76 seaters. Your welcome for the 88 717’s.
Fischer Tropsh is economically viable above approx $125 oil.
Fischer
06-27-2012 | 10:10 AM
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From: Light Chop
the economy can't seem to handle $4/gal gas. Whatever oil is, if it's at $4/gal demand drops and the economy sours, supply builds, prices drop, bubble pops. Rinse and repeat.
06-27-2012 | 10:11 AM
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I probably would be “there” except for my dire outlook on the economy and world events. I just watched a video saying there is a chance that a barrel of oil may go to $220 in 2012. I'm not convinced of that per se, but what effect do you suppose that would have regarding our negotiating leverage? The next jobs report is supposed to be bleak again. Housing crisis is far from over. 15 global banks just got downgraded. Millions of Americans out of work. Unemployment still at 8.2%. Stockton, CA just declared BK. National debt approaching $16T and expected to be over $30T by the end of the decade. Iran getting the bomb. Greece failing. Spain failing. Italy failing. Euro going down if not away completely. US borrowing from China 40 cents on every US dollar it squanders. Blah, Blah, Blah. Yeah I know, it’s a broken record, but IMHO these events are not only unprecedented, they cannot be ignored. To do so is foolish and reckless. The company is finally making money after a decade of bleeding red ink. You can let your own chips ride, but I would rather take my chips and go home. For now anyway. Sorry about the added 76 seaters. Your welcome for the 88 717’s.
I got lectured on similar about a year ago all the way down and back to MAO. He was convinced the economy was going to collapse again and the DOW was going to be around 6000. Guess what didn't happen?
You wrote a similar paragraph. That is always crap going on and if you want to focus on that you can, but the fact is that the sky is not falling. What you wrote about the future boils down to foolishness really...
06-27-2012 | 10:31 AM
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From: Light Chop
the solution to high or low oil prices is to buy gold. buy gold. buy gold. if you haven't bought gold, you're a d*******.
Did you say something?
I didn't think so.
buy gold. or you're the d*******.
Did you say something?
I didn't think so.
buy gold. or you're the d*******.
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