Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-03-2012, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Best tag line ever ....
"She put her life in his hands, now her toe is in the mail."
07-03-2012, 07:18 AM
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BUZZPAT it was great seeing yesterday. Here's hoping the LA trips improve!
07-03-2012, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Brocc;
You know, there really are no stupid questions.
Except this one
. Flush is a term used for downward or outward movement. You will hear it used in conjuction with bump...ie: no bump, no flush.
Bump is where in a merger a pilot from one airline displaces a pilot from the other airline from the seat he was in.
Flush is where due to a number of reasons you are displaced from the aircraft you are on and or furloughed.
The terms are used primarily in a merger scenario, but could come into play in other scenarios. You have experienced it by being bounced around the bottom to typically lower paying equipment.
You know, there really are no stupid questions.
Except this one
. Flush is a term used for downward or outward movement. You will hear it used in conjuction with bump...ie: no bump, no flush.Bump is where in a merger a pilot from one airline displaces a pilot from the other airline from the seat he was in.
Flush is where due to a number of reasons you are displaced from the aircraft you are on and or furloughed.
The terms are used primarily in a merger scenario, but could come into play in other scenarios. You have experienced it by being bounced around the bottom to typically lower paying equipment.
07-03-2012, 09:00 AM
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07-03-2012, 09:10 AM
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BB,
Bar, that is one interesting chart, does explain a lot. I suspect AK's saving was they had a pretty solid niche in Alaska, that no one wanted to spend competing with. Think the old Allegheny franchise, into the triple witching merger with Piedmont and PSA which exposed their weaknesses.
GF
Bar, that is one interesting chart, does explain a lot. I suspect AK's saving was they had a pretty solid niche in Alaska, that no one wanted to spend competing with. Think the old Allegheny franchise, into the triple witching merger with Piedmont and PSA which exposed their weaknesses.
GF
07-03-2012, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
Indeed.
I'd expect most or all of the 717s to be based in...ATL.
The 737-900 will probably do a lot of flying out of ATL, but as they add them, they can shift -800 flying pretty much anyplace, so I'd expect an overall increase in anyplace that currently has a 737 base. I'd expect to see shrinkage (!) in the SLC 7ER category and the NYC, DTW, and MSP 7ER category as the -900 takes some of the 757 flying as those airplanes are turned into FedEx box haulers.
I'd expect most or all of the 717s to be based in...ATL.
The 737-900 will probably do a lot of flying out of ATL, but as they add them, they can shift -800 flying pretty much anyplace, so I'd expect an overall increase in anyplace that currently has a 737 base. I'd expect to see shrinkage (!) in the SLC 7ER category and the NYC, DTW, and MSP 7ER category as the -900 takes some of the 757 flying as those airplanes are turned into FedEx box haulers.
07-03-2012, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
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07-03-2012, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
That being said, Bar, I think your analysis is on the mark.
07-03-2012, 11:12 AM
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CVG767,
My thoughts exactly. Wonder how many of those cities' declines could be directly attributed to McKinsey's work to outsource labor? McKinsey's people were typically long on middle of the pack Harvard grads who lacked any common sense or experience. They could case study anything, but could not account for the real variables that make a business run, or which encourage customers to return to that business.
When Mullin was with McKinsey they reorganized my employer ... McKinsey & Co. had just finished the Delta re-org under Ron Allen ... as a joke I got a copy of the Delta Re-org chart and cut out my Company's logo and pasted it to the top. A "Top Secret" unveiling was held in the Company garage.
It was a complete shock to us 9 months and $60,000,000.00 later (in 1993 $) when McKinsey's real re-org chart matched my "Joke Chart" precisely. They simply rehashed the same model over and over again. We went from being the most profitable in our business to having serious liquidity problems in just under three years. Fortunately McKinsey had not yet discovered the tool of bankruptcy to destroy defined benefit plans, so at least those employees retained their pensions.
Mostly McKinsey exists to do things that managers with any loyalty are afraid to do for themselves ... i.e. fire people & outsource labor.
My thoughts exactly. Wonder how many of those cities' declines could be directly attributed to McKinsey's work to outsource labor? McKinsey's people were typically long on middle of the pack Harvard grads who lacked any common sense or experience. They could case study anything, but could not account for the real variables that make a business run, or which encourage customers to return to that business.
When Mullin was with McKinsey they reorganized my employer ... McKinsey & Co. had just finished the Delta re-org under Ron Allen ... as a joke I got a copy of the Delta Re-org chart and cut out my Company's logo and pasted it to the top. A "Top Secret" unveiling was held in the Company garage.
It was a complete shock to us 9 months and $60,000,000.00 later (in 1993 $) when McKinsey's real re-org chart matched my "Joke Chart" precisely. They simply rehashed the same model over and over again. We went from being the most profitable in our business to having serious liquidity problems in just under three years. Fortunately McKinsey had not yet discovered the tool of bankruptcy to destroy defined benefit plans, so at least those employees retained their pensions.
Mostly McKinsey exists to do things that managers with any loyalty are afraid to do for themselves ... i.e. fire people & outsource labor.
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07-03-2012, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Mostly McKinsey exists to do things that managers with any loyalty are afraid to do for themselves ... i.e. fire people & outsource labor.
Not too different from Bob and Bob.
Last edited by CVG767A; 07-03-2012 at 12:05 PM.
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