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forgot to bid 07-06-2012 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1225469)
Haven't we given up a lot in this TA...

YES!


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1225469)
...to help create growth, ergo newhire posititions?

D'oh. Well, change help to hope since we forgot to say must.

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Ragtop Day 07-06-2012 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Brocc15 (Post 1225514)
Can we still bank? I have never been able to bank before, but now with the increased reserve guarantee I am wondering if I can. How do I do this?

We can still bank, but you can only deposit any credit above 80 hours (up to 20 hrs/mo., +60 hrs total). Since the max rsv guarantee is 80 hrs, you will not be able to bank unless you GS or fly your butt off.

Transactions must be requested before the last day of the month, so if you are going to be close don't wait around to see what the final credit number is. You can request "in the blind" meaning you can tell the computer you want to deposit 5 hours, if you only credit 82.5, the bank will deposit 2.5 hours and disregard the rest.

If you are negative, the computer will automatically take up to 5 hours per month over 80 until you are back to 0.

For reference it is Sec. 12 O.

Jughead 07-06-2012 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by More Bacon (Post 1225498)
Our reputation as double-breasted dicks is alive and well.

After 4.5 years of APC viewing, you are the first to make it to my ignore list. And I can put up with just about anybody. You come across as a complete *******.

Congratulations.

Sink r8 07-06-2012 09:52 AM

Fine. I hope it will help.

forgot to bid 07-06-2012 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1225562)

When does a pilot start working under the PWA?

I never thought about this, I'm going to go look it up. :D

Okay... if you have not finished your initial OE then you are an entry level pilot. But you're given a seniority number on day 1 and the PWA governs how that seniority number is assigned. But if I remember right the union cannot represent you until you are finished.

Hmmm. Well my guess is day 1 if your seniority number is assigned on day 1 then you meet the definition of a pilot.

Did I get it right?

Scoop 07-06-2012 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by More Bacon (Post 1225498)
Our reputation as double-breasted dicks is alive and well.


Really?? I greatly appreciated the "DBD's" paying health care for me and my family when I was furloughed.

Scoop :confused:

forgot to bid 07-06-2012 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1225571)
Fine. I hope it will help.

yeah me too.

MrBojangles 07-06-2012 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1225497)
Could it be better for our new hires? Of course, but lets remember a few things. First, with over 15K apps on file in 2008 no one was going to turn down a DAL job over crappy first year pay or having to scout out a crash pad for four weeks of their 30+ year career. No one. It is not the best choice, but not one that would make someone decline a position. Not at CAL not having health insurance and crappy pay for six months and a year respectively. I know that I chose DAL over them, but that was not the only reason. Some would not even apply to them for that item.

First year pay stunk. I made 22K in eight months. I made over double that in three months at my previous job. I knew it was going to be a significant change and I planned accordingly. Being at the house with a new born and in new hire training was stressful, but again, better than paying for a hotel or crash pad. It was a few weeks out of my life. Was it most desired? Nope, but worth the prize which was a job at the premier global airline.

I have more than made up for this pay and lack of hotel in my time here. Most of you would agree.


If we want it fixed, we should make it a priority, but I highly doubt that most will be willing to make it a top priority. If anyone decides not to take a DAL job because of it, they are crazy.

I agree 100%. I'm not saying I'd give up my dream job just because I have to pay for a hotel, but it was definitely an additional stress to some of the people in my class.

MrBojangles 07-06-2012 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Ragtop Day (Post 1225566)
We can still bank, but you can only deposit any credit above 80 hours (up to 20 hrs/mo., +60 hrs total). Since the max rsv guarantee is 80 hrs, you will not be able to bank unless you GS or fly your butt off.

Transactions must be requested before the last day of the month, so if you are going to be close don't wait around to see what the final credit number is. You can request "in the blind" meaning you can tell the computer you want to deposit 5 hours, if you only credit 82.5, the bank will deposit 2.5 hours and disregard the rest.

If you are negative, the computer will automatically take up to 5 hours per month over 80 until you are back to 0.

For reference it is Sec. 12 O.

Dumb question here, but if I bank 5 hours at my pay level now and withdraw it a few years later at my higher pay rate, they pay out at the new level, right? New to the credit bank here.

Ragtop Day 07-06-2012 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by MrBojangles (Post 1225581)
Dumb question here, but if I bank 5 hours at my pay level now and withdraw it a few years later at my higher pay rate, they pay out at the new level, right? New to the credit bank here.

Yes that is correct. The game is to bank the max at a low rate (before upgrade or equipment change) and withdraw at the high rate. You can also work it in reverse before a displacement--withdraw to -30 at the high rate and replenish at the lower rate.


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