As long as people are willing to pay for their hotels, Delta will not. Once interviews begin and pilot do not show or Delta has issues filling classes; you might see paid-for hotels.

TEN

I thought it was anything over 80.5 hours???

So, you're saying never.......(V doesn't fly to AKL from LAX)

You can easily bid an unblockable and therefore reserve line. Avoid every rotation and "else reserve" there is probably an even easier way than that like select avoid, then click on landings in then highlight every landing airport in blue, then select else reserve.

Dude they do not positive space home on the weekends, only during breaks or before/end of training. They do not just because you want to go home

Yeah, and you are at the head of the class, Porky.

Not from LA, but that does not necessarily mean a change of departure city.

They have to with starting pay where its at. A new hire at DAL is making a lot more than a three or four year FO at a regional. On a 75 hr reserve guarantee its 46.67 bucks an hr.

DAL also PSY's a new hire pilot home if there is a break in training. Not just a week break but one of more than a couple of days. They also PSY a spouse down for the new hire dinner. That dinner is at least 50 a head as well.

As I see it, there is a basic flaw in this discussion. You are using a flawed comparision metric.

We aren't looking at this if we are new managers of a multinational corporation.

If you were hired to do a job at Exxon or JP Morgan in management, you can bet that you would receive a hotel room and a stipend during your training period. You would not be expected to pick up the tab. If you were hired as a new sales representative at Proctor and Gamble, you can bet that your travel expenses would be reimbursed. Furthermore, if you were transferred by Microsoft, you would recieve a generous moving package including help with selling your house.

Why do we sell ourselves short because we are in the airline travel business? Are you a valued new employee or not? This applies to old hires as well. New hire and relocation expenses are the bastard step child of the Company.

To rub salt in the wound, don't new hire F/A's stay at the training center?

I agree with your premise.

Does one of these employees get a paid hotel room and per diem when at their "home" or "base" DAL considers all "new hire pilots" in domicile when in ATL or MSP for initial training. Now we are getting some where.

When does a pilot start working under the PWA?