Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1225317)

Heyas Elvis,

I bet these same guys squawked about paying the assessment for the COBRA payments for the furloughed guys.

Nu

Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog (Post 1225323)

We are the only legacy carrier that requires new hires to pay their own way during training as far as I know. In fact, most of the Regionals provide lodging to their new hires. Maybe back in your day it was the norm to expect guys to pay their own way, but we are way behind the rest of the industry in this. Yes, I as a line pilot would be more than willing to give a little so that our new hires (not Plebes... This is a business, not a service academy) don't have to suffer an additional financial hardship before coming to work on first year wages.

To me, this just makes Delta look cheap and corporate. To you, apparently, it's a rite of passage to become a Delta Plebe..err.. I mean new hire. Long gone are the days where pilots would do anything..everything...just to be a Delta pilot. There's plenty of other attractive offers out there, and this nickel and dime BS just makes us look less attractive to good, solid applicants.

Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1225331)

It should work out pretty well. Bring on the 717s and park 9s, 88s, 757s, etc all at the same time. No hiring required, and still get the new 76ers.

Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1225338)

Yeah, it's pure speculation and I hope to be wrong. :) I tried to read the Crew Resources update with a positive outlook, but I kept seeing more cutbacks, cities we are losing, etc. And DCI still doing 75%+ of the slot swap flying just drives me nuts! Here's to some new hires this fall.

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1225313)

Bill may be disappointed.

Those dirty old DC-9s that no-body wanted to fly went pretty darn senior in ATL.

Same for the 330. There sure were a number of "if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going" types that suddenly found it within their ability to bid it despite their previous francophobia.

Between the lack of pilots taking the early out, the parking of other aircraft, and the change in work rules, I'd be surprised if we even got back to where we were post merger, in terms of staffing and airframes.

Nu

Originally Posted by Raging white (Post 1225253)

Dude, this is the most blatant example of pulling up the ladder behind you I've ever seen. Holy crap

Originally Posted by FlyZ (Post 1225331)

It should work out pretty well. Bring on the 717s and park 9s, 88s, 757s, etc all at the same time. No hiring required, and still get the new 76ers.

Originally Posted by PropNWA (Post 1225362)

Maybe if you bothered to actually read the update, you would realize that "realignment" refers to possibly moving some ATL 777 positions to DTW since DTW is apparently short on the 777 this Summer. Nowhere does it imply that there will be fewer total 777 positions. I'm pretty sure the 777 pays the same in DTW as it does in ATL.

Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1225353)

Heyas Nu--

You're wrong.

Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 1225317)

Heyas Elvis,

I bet these same guys squawked about paying the assessment for the COBRA payments for the furloughed guys.

Nu