Originally Posted by DAWGS (Post 1192041)

I do believe these are going to be the numbers. The silence this week has been deafening while this rumor has gained traction. RW was preaching 10%?? to match Southwest a few months ago, right??...well there you go. ALPA success!! Everyone wanted to match SW rates! They will massage the he$$ out of the numbers to make it appear that they were successful. ALPA magic! And throw in a few RJs to boot! Hey..we had to give up something.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1192046)

Assume you are right. What's a 744/777A make in Jan 2015?

Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 1191960)

He recommended a no vote, so how is that a sales pitch?

Originally Posted by DAWGS (Post 1192060)

I don't care what carl makes, he is the elite of our group. I care what the masses make. I know I would make less than a SW FO with 4+8+3+3 on day one, much less three to four years from now and I am a 12 year FO. Adding RJs is just adding insult to injury. None of us know for sure till we see the TA, however I do think it is what we will see tomorrow or Tuesday if the reps don't show some backbone.

Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1191942)

The reality is that there are a bunch of little reasons management would like to get a contract done now. There are however no compelling reasons they need a contract complete.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1192063)

OK. Lets wait and see what it really is.

Originally Posted by More Bacon (Post 1192062)

He's obviously setting us up...the TA probably has something marginally higher than 4/8/3/3.

Then we feel lucky and grateful for something ever so slightly higher...and forget about all of the QOL items DALPA has already admitted they've conceded (along with scope).

I just can't understand why DALPA would concede anything at this point.

Originally Posted by DAWGS (Post 1192066)

Fair enough...glad to be the recipient of your 17000th post. Do I get anything for that?:D

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1192069)

There must be an award for exceeding your hours total time with internet posts. :)

Who's joining me to watch the MEC meeting tomorrow??