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scambo1 05-20-2012 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1192129)
that'd be interesting way to do pay, inflation plus X%.

If we use 4833 that becomes 10,14,9,9 or using 9% 13,17,12,12. That I could live with if we fix scope.

Should I do a speeadsheet? :D


I hate excel, I don't know how you do it.

forgot to bid 05-20-2012 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Roadkill (Post 1192131)
Someone will come in here from LUV and post some bogus 10k post... Not sure what is a fitting post though. Some 10k underboob?

Crap, there are only 39 posts to go, now I can't log off, I'm gonna have to sit here an keep updating to see what happens, almost as exciting as waiting for the AE or TA lol.

Flew with a LCA couple days ago, his rumor was 11% and 11%, and 5hours/calendar day. He admitted he got it from an FO though lol...

I think you just gave mookie an idea. :D

johnso29 05-20-2012 01:49 PM

Does anyone know if you can run an Ad Blocker on your iPad?

Sink r8 05-20-2012 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1192129)
that'd be interesting way to do pay, inflation plus X%.

If we use 4833 that becomes 10,14,9,9 or using 9% 13,17,12,12. That I could live with if we fix scope.

Should I do a speeadsheet? :D

Don't waste your time.

I suggested we should have part of our pay fixed, part of it "at risk", and part of it adjusted to inflation several months ago, and I don't think anyone liked it on APC.

4/8/3/3, for example, would sound better if it would flex from 4-16/8-32/2-8/2-8 depending on inflation and profit. The reason I'm not overly focused on pay is that I want a good contract first, but the reason I could imagine voting for the rumored 4/8/3/3 (with a good contract) is that I don't know what the future holds.

You could have a poor economy, and poor company performance, and 4/8/3/3 would look specatular in hindsight. You could also have a great economy, and high inflation, and be able to live with 16/32/8/8. You could even have some middle ground, i.e. stagflation, and get by on 8/16/4/4, or something like that.

We're remarkably poor at figuring out how to handle the goose long-term, and we're not very trusting of any flexible components to our pay. So we'll always have to weigh the risk of foregoing a decent raise after the economy turns sour by being too agressive, vs. the reward of holding out for the company to hit on all cyclinders, with the right administration, at some time in the future, with our bungholes puckered up that the economy doesn't cough meanwhile.

So, here we are.

Sink r8 05-20-2012 02:00 PM

You're going to have to slow this down about 25 posts out, with only GD ready to hit send, and ONE mod, to time 100K. Several well-intentioned people will kill the count.

johnso29 05-20-2012 02:14 PM

Interesting Article
 
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TenYearsGone 05-20-2012 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1192123)
With inflation averaging 3% per year, isn't 4/8/3/3 more like 9/0/0? :)

Its like 3/-7/-7..:) I wish inflation was JUST 3%.

TEN

More Bacon 05-20-2012 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1192140)

4/8/3/3, for example, would sound better if it would flex from 4-16/8-32/2-8/2-8 depending on inflation and profit.

That sounds like a decent idea--at least with regards to inflation.

But since I provide the highest level of performance whether the company is making a profit or not, my compensation should not be tied to a profit.

Or maybe we should just stop doing a good job when profits are down.

RockyBoy 05-20-2012 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1192129)
that'd be interesting way to do pay, inflation plus X%.

I've always thought this would be a good way to do pay. I told them in my survey that we need SWA pay DOS and then inflation + 3% after that.

The guy I'm flying with has your payrate table printed out on colored cardstock and is 110% sure he got it from a "secret" source of his that he can't reveal. He's pulling it out and showing it to every pilot he sees. :)

Guard Dude 05-20-2012 02:32 PM

Getting ready to push for RDU. I'll check back when I'm in the crew van.


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