Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Skywalker couldn't lift the ship out of the swamp.
Yoda lifted the ship out of the swamp.
Newk would push the planet away from the ship to get it out of the swamp.
Did SILs make it in our new contract? (iPad word search didn't find anything)
If not why are they still posting on DeltaNet?
If not why are they still posting on DeltaNet?
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Hah! Thanks for outing him, as I was beginning to think the writing styles were awfully similar. Kinda smart taking the name of the other Bill from FI. Although GL from the other board claims to be a senior 7er B based in ATL.
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Sure, but you won't be able to say that after several iterations of double-digit increases. Seems a lot of Delta guys could have said the same thing about the company's insurance plan a decade ago. Point being, you think it's nothing at first, but after a while it adds up.
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Ha, I hit my $5000 out of pocket in network max already.
It was $12k for a 2 night stay for one, $15k for a five night stay for the other both viruses. The latter hit his head playing and that was $5k ER visit. Still paying off the $2k bill from last year.
My total hospital bill for FTB since 1999, $150.
It was $12k for a 2 night stay for one, $15k for a five night stay for the other both viruses. The latter hit his head playing and that was $5k ER visit. Still paying off the $2k bill from last year.
My total hospital bill for FTB since 1999, $150.
I'll break it down for those that don't understand it. (114.50x24) for premiums + 3000 family deductible + 5000 family max out of pocket - 1500 HRA account. It comes out to $9248. This is assuming you manage to keep every claim in-network. I put $2000 into the FSA account this year because I knew we were having a kid. I just paid $2000 out of my pocket because my HRA and FSA account are empty. It is my own fault for picking this plan. I will never pick it again. The HRA account is there as a distraction because the plan is so bad. You end up with a $1500 deductible for the family instead of a $3000 deductible, but that deductible does not count towards the out of pocket max.
Do you have the gold plan? If so, you will spend $9248 on health insurance this year not including dental or vision. The HRA gold plan is about as bad as it gets if you actually use it. It looks good if you only go to the doctor once of twice a year, but for something major, it is a very bad plan.
I'll break it down for those that don't understand it. (114.50x24) for premiums + 3000 family deductible + 5000 family max out of pocket - 1500 HRA account. It comes out to $9248. This is assuming you manage to keep every claim in-network. I put $2000 into the FSA account this year because I knew we were having a kid. I just paid $2000 out of my pocket because my HRA and FSA account are empty. It is my own fault for picking this plan. I will never pick it again. The HRA account is there as a distraction because the plan is so bad. You end up with a $1500 deductible for the family instead of a $3000 deductible, but that deductible does not count towards the out of pocket max.
I'll break it down for those that don't understand it. (114.50x24) for premiums + 3000 family deductible + 5000 family max out of pocket - 1500 HRA account. It comes out to $9248. This is assuming you manage to keep every claim in-network. I put $2000 into the FSA account this year because I knew we were having a kid. I just paid $2000 out of my pocket because my HRA and FSA account are empty. It is my own fault for picking this plan. I will never pick it again. The HRA account is there as a distraction because the plan is so bad. You end up with a $1500 deductible for the family instead of a $3000 deductible, but that deductible does not count towards the out of pocket max.
To reach that out of pocket maximum, you had to have charged at least $43,000 in medical expenses at the in-network rate. Add in another $500-1000 of expenses for the "free" preventive services you might have utilized, and you're at roughly $44,000 of medical expenses on the year. And that's at the UHC negotiated discount, generally about 50%. So, let's do the real math on that $88,000 of medical expenses that the doctors/hospitals actually charged:
$44,000 - written off by the doctor as a loss
$9,248 - your share of the remaining $44,000
$34,742 - Delta's share of the remaining $44,000
Yes, we pay a ton for health care. That is a huge problem in this country. But you're not the only one "taking it in the shorts". Do I wish we all had "free" health care, like we used to. Of course. But whose pocket do you propose to take that money from? I'm just asking a serious question.
And BTW, just what medical plan do you plan to take, if you're gonna drop the Gold HRA? There are no silver bullets out there. Choose carefully.
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I think we eliminated the 55 hours of pay for a SIL(through a side letter I believe) during our last contract. I'll search, but I think that sweet deal is gone.
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Well, I was speaking to insurance. Glad to hear you're completely satisfied with your company's insurance plan and its costs. No need for future NCs to address that issue. Well, except in regard to what you're willing to give up to keep it.
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