Then explain how ASA flew 100 seat 4 engine jets that was not stated in the contract. Your statement above is incorrect. Delta until the 91 contract essentially had no scope at all. It was a long fight to get what we achieved. In every contract since 91 scope was one of the last issues decided. It came well after pay in most contracts. In the 01 contract pay was already set in stone almost a year before scope.

Where is there a list of who are LCPs at our category? I know you can see "reg" or "LCP" on your rotation, but is there a list somewhere? I don't see any difference when looking at the roster, pairings, wide, or reasons reports.

One of the interesting things about the ER program is that while the number taking the program was lower then expected the age of pilots taking the program was also lower then expected. The end result is that the 250 leaving will have a much better long term impact for the pilot group then if they had reached the 300 number they hoped for yet they had been the older pilots in the expected demographic.

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Randy as EA MEC Chair would be news to me and I was on the BOS LEC from '87-'89. Jack Bavis was MEC Chair from '87 to the end during the strike when replaced by Copeland, I think it was. Larry Schulte preceded Jack and Randy was at ALPA National during that time, because I met him there.

Yes, we did have side letters for Bar Harbor, who went bust when we did, but early turboprops and DC-3s are a far cry from today's deals. Hell, DCI's "jumbo" RJ is bigger than EA's fleet--284 to 325. Yes, the industry is bigger, but stll".....

Yes, Pan Am did right by taking Ransome, making it PAA Express. A friend of mine was #1 there, went to PAA mainline on the A310, retired from DAL.

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I hate auto correct!

Never trust anything that needs that much crap hanging off the back end to stabilize it :eek:

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Many of us including myself will always care about how we define our flying and the most junior to the most senior pilot on our list. Individual seniority has little or anything to do with it.

ASA had an agreement w/ Delta and Delta pilots (MEC?) for BAE-146 configured with 88 seats. I think we had maybe 5-6 of them. One was white w/ 100 seats and supposedly was a spare or loaner. ASA was allowed to acquire up to 20 of them but never got beyond the 5-6.

Where are the court cases where ALPA battled the company over DCI scope? Other than ALPA saying they fought hard for it every time in contract negotiations, there is no other evidence to support that it actually happened, unless I missed it.

Exactly! I used to call it, "The Ice Macine". Anything that needs that many extra strakes to make it fly straight...well...it shouldn't be flying in the first place!

That one white 146 was a mtc spare we were given while the others went though D check in Bna. The year was 1997.