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Midnight tonight is deadline for old people to pull their bids for the early out. What is the final number we are going to see?
My best guess is 17 will pull their papers leaving 234 heading for the door |
Delta Air Lines Inc. will spend up to $20.5 million on severance packages for Comair pilots, a union official said Tuesday.
That works out to about $31,000 for each of Comair’s 660 active pilots. “It’s quite a bit more than what the company was contractually required to give us,” said Alan Cook, spokesman for the local bargaining unit of the Air Line Pilots Association. Delta (NYSE: DAL) last month announced the closure of its wholly owned regional carrier, effective Sept. 29. The Atlanta-based airline confirmed Monday that it reached severance deals with unions representing pilots, machinists and flight attendants. But it referred questions about severance packages to union leaders. Cook said the pilot’s union secured three months of health coverage and an assurance that all sick days and vacation days would be fully paid. Eighty percent of payments will be dependant on pilots showing up for at least 85 percent of their scheduled flights. Another 20 percent of payments will depend on how many Comair flights are cancelled because of maintenance problems, crew shortages and other issues. “Right after the (Comair closure) announcement, we had over 100 sick calls per day,” Cook said. “We’ve got a lot of pilots who had a lot of sick time. They were concerned that they weren’t going to be paid for that.” The union representing Comair machinists said yesterday that its 240 members would receive severance benefits of up to $40,000 per employee, depending on tenure. Both unions secured a provision for its members to fly free on Delta after Comair closes. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1245570)
Mesabah,
Not really. Contract 2000 actually improved some scope.* But, it had some off the wall economic assumptions. Reality began to hit almost immediately. Delta management was so far off the mark that old time Delta insiders believe Fred Reid and Mullin deliberately bankrupted the Company, and it nearly got away from them. Scope trading appears more of a defensive play to gut the contract without giving up it's pecuniary aspects. This was performed in the poisoned environment that the 2000 ALPA BOD meeting created with the denial of merger requests from ASA and Comair. The first "scope sales" were at Eastern, US Air, then United. Delta came along with United plus and somehow ALPA at it's highest levels decided outsourcing is good. * ASA had 120 seat jets and was shopping 737's to replace them. Contract 2000 placed a whole host of new restrictions on "Connection" flying. |
Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 1245576)
Hate to interrupt the fur ball.....but some Bs are out.
Carry on. That's putting it mildly!!:eek::) I'd make a comment but it's not worth getting in the middle of said "fur ball." Denny |
Bucking Bar
I like your posts, smart, on point, humorous, but you have some splainin' to do about EA starting "scope sales", please, Sir. Unless you consider Air New England's DC-3s. There weren't any planes that were worth outsourcing, back before the DC-9 became the Mad Dog. GF |
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
(Post 1245607)
Bucking Bar
I like your posts, smart, on point, humorous, but you have some splainin' to do about EA starting "scope sales", please, Sir. Unless you consider Air New England's DC-3s. There weren't any planes that were worth outsourcing, back before the DC-9 became the Mad Dog. GF The Metroliners and Bandits had their day. The Dash 8's and ATR's are still going strong. If you want specifics I'll have to dig through a couple of books. Most of this happened pre-internet. Mr. Babbit, from what I can tell, is a straight shooter and has my respect. |
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
(Post 1245570)
* ASA had 120 seat jets and was shopping 737's to replace them. Contract 2000 placed a whole host of new restrictions on "Connection" flying.
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
(Post 1245599)
That's putting it mildly!!:eek::) I'd make a comment but it's not worth getting in the middle of said "fur ball."
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Originally Posted by Jughead
(Post 1245619)
Hmmm. I don't remember this. Not saying it didn't happen, but I was on the Scope-Jet (BAe146-200) from the very beginning, until the time ASA got rid of them. I was Bee-ill's (say that like I typed it, and you'll know who I speak of) training partner at IAD at the Presidential Airlines facility. They were 108 seat jets, reconfigured to 88 pax seats. I never heard about any potential 737's, but Pickett and Beiser never told me jack squat.
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Originally Posted by UncleSam
(Post 1245623)
Amen brother! We will never accomplish what we are able to with such bickering among ourselves.
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