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Columbia 08-19-2012 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1248418)
Plus, American's seniority list is WAY senior to ours. We'd get killed in the SLI. Massive furloughs... yep! Train wreck is the best way to put it. I really hope this doesn't happen.

But just imagine the money management and the lawyers would make. We're talking private island sorta money.

Martin404 08-19-2012 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1248289)
I found this quote to be very interesting...............:

"Sources close to Delta have said that the carrier has conducted an anti-trust analysis and found that with some concessions, the deal could pass an anti-trust review."

Denny

Edit: Guess I should add that this is in regards to American......


Why AMR? Why not Jetblue? (None of that pesky pilot union contract thing to deal with?)

tsquare 08-19-2012 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1248360)

Would we ever give up LGA to consolidate in JFK?

Are you seriously asking this or is it a joke?

tsquare 08-19-2012 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1248418)
Plus, American's seniority list is WAY senior to ours.

What does this mean? The number one pilot at AMR is number 1. The number 1 pilot at DAL is number 1. Their seniority numbers are the same. And in counting order, so is everybody else on both lists. Your post makes absolutely no sense. OR did you mean older? Which has zero relevance.

Cycle Pilot 08-19-2012 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1248444)
What does this mean? The number one pilot at AMR is number 1. The number 1 pilot at DAL is number 1. Their seniority numbers are the same. And in counting order, so is everybody else on both lists. Your post makes absolutely no sense. OR did you mean older? Which has zero relevance.

Meaning they haven't hired since 2000. Their most junior Captain has been with the company over 20 years! Still have 1800 pilots on furlough. The SLI would be a nightmare. Probably make USAirways' merger look like a Disney movie.

sailingfun 08-19-2012 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Cycle Pilot (Post 1248449)
Meaning they haven't hired since 2000. Their most junior Captain has been with the company over 20 years! Still have 1800 pilots on furlough. The SLI would be a nightmare. Probably make USAirways' merger look like a Disney movie.

I don't think it would be anything like USAIR. The reason USAIR is where they are today is because one pilot group was 3 times the size of the other group. The smaller group was however perceived as getting a better deal in arbitration. This allowed the larger group to hijack the process and vote in their own union. Its not likely given the two sizes of the pilot groups anything like that could occur in a DAL/AMR merger.
Having said all that I think RA only interest in AMR is making sure that their exit from chapter 11 is as expensive as possible. That is why he has interjected himself in the process. Every possible offer drives up what the creditors will demand from American in a stand alone plan.

scambo1 08-19-2012 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1248451)
I don't think it would be anything like USAIR. The reason USAIR is where they are today is because one pilot group was 3 times the size of the other group. The smaller group was however perceived as getting a better deal in arbitration. This allowed the larger group to hijack the process and vote in their own union. Its not likely given the two sizes of the pilot groups anything like that could occur in a DAL/AMR merger.
Having said all that I think RA only interest in AMR is making sure that their exit from chapter 11 is as expensive as possible. That is why he has interjected himself in the process. Every possible offer drives up what the creditors will demand from American in a stand alone plan.

I think the reason usair is so screwed up is because of the order in which they did their steps to merge. Oddly, UCal has not taken the DAL/NWA template to heart either.

Let's hope we don't have to find out how to merge again.

alfaromeo 08-19-2012 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 1248457)
I think the reason usair is so screwed up is because of the order in which they did their steps to merge. Oddly, UCal has not taken the DAL/NWA template to heart either.

Let's hope we don't have to find out how to merge again.

UCAL is following our template pretty much to the letter. What are they doing differently? (except for being very SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW)

Jesse 08-19-2012 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 1248343)


You have my attention. Post of the month!

Wingnutdal 08-19-2012 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1248360)
Well, if it happens it happens, but

http://bloggingblue.com/wp-content/u...rain-wreck.jpg

Unless of course USAIR still happens with AMR and they divest and we're just first in line. I kind of keep looking at United and thinking man, when they get their act together they'll be a monster. We offer NYC but it's split between LGA and JFK, they own EWR. We have DTW, they have ORD. We have SLC they have DEN. We have LAX via a codeshare, they have LAX. They have IAH and we have ATL. We may actually trump them there when you consider the population location and Florida. But IAH is a nice clean airport.

Would we ever give up LGA to consolidate in JFK?

Hey FTB.

our network guys say nobody has ORD (ual, amr, swa) DEN (ual, f9, swa) or LAX (everyone).


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